You be the dev: XP for Kill Formulae omgthissucks

[Rufio]

I'm here for the pvp too, but not everyone is the same way.

Personally I have found leveling to be a little faster after level 35 than before, but I haven't been soloing or going to places like dwarfs very much. I really have enjoyed partying with a lot of new people this past week and bringing them to areas that they hadn't been to often. There were some other players tonight complaining about not being able to get good exp past 35, but these people were more of the soloing/small party types. I wouldn't mind if the post-35 exp was improved still, The time investment to level is steep for a casual player.

[frogofpeace]

I don't mind the high level grind as much as starting out. Some builds really aren't satisfactory until 40, but most at least have some playability. I'll play <40 builds in raids (that's why they die so much - yeah, that's the ticket!). L<5 is just too limited to be interesting. I also find that starting in factions means it's very difficult to find a starting level party - at higher levels, your in more common areas and, if you don't mind playing with hippies or dirty stinking spider-lovers, there is more chance of finding people of similar level. Or some one of similar level for fight, depending on your perspective.


I was leveling an evo cleric, svirf, with vanilla gear and a chicken, resting when the chicken ran out. Maybe could have upgraded to l1 gear sooner, I'll try that next time.

Rogues in NC would make all right in the world. Praise Torm!

[mining]

Ok, so I'm hearing that its impossible to solo level 36+, but then we also have these people who're having great times in parties at 35+. Ideas on how to reconcile this?

[Snookz Eaglin]

Ok, so I'm hearing that its impossible to solo level 36+, but then we also have these people who're having great times in parties at 35+. Ideas on how to reconcile this?

Imho, lower the penalty somewhat for killing under your cr at lvl 36-40.

[Midterm]

Award bonus xp if you get the kill.

You should also get 300 gold, extra gold if you get a double kill, triple kill, quadra kill, and PENTAKILL.

You should also get gold for going on Killing Sprees, Unstoppable, and for being GODLIKE.


Ignore points 2 and 3 and implement 1.

[Amoenotep]

really...league of legends for you too?

[Midterm]

[Rufio]

Award bonus xp if you get the kill.

All that would really do is make people not want to play support builds so they can bring their glass cannon damage dealer and get all the exp.

[Midterm]

But if you play League of Legends, you too will learn how to last hit as well.

KS = KILL SECURED

Ok in all honesty, I'm talking about bonus xp. If everyone wants to play glass cannon carries and make the party fail at epic parties, then that's a choice by them.

But if you really really want to nitpick this:

Award bonus xp on kill for anything CR 35+.

[RHG1]

Award bonus xp on kill for anything CR 35+.

IMO, thats just silly, this is coming from someone who spends hours upon hours soloing higher planar areas....


NEXT!!!

[mining]

Hrmm, might help if we can consider what can / can't solo in CR 36+ areas.

What I know can:
Clerics (Posi)
Mages w/ shield proficiency (Abyss, probably a lot of areas)
Shifters (lots of places, especially with damage shield)
CoT (Negi, Posi, Elysium?)
DWD (Everywhere if it has pal/rogue/azerblood)
SD (DWP, any others? Doubt it.)
Casters with Balor (Epic DE)
PM build (Pretty much anywhere they like)
Builds with AC >=76 (heaps of places, possibly slowly, but surely).
Barbarian, esp. with damage shield (Almost anywhere, some restrictions but can certainly do Elys and similar)

What I know has issues:
Pure Fighter. (low AC, needs to kit way too often in a lot of places)

I know that around level 35-37ish, Alzarra mobs are a good way to get XP, but after that it might get rougher.

[Rufio]

Soloing really high level stuff can be hard for melee builds with low ab or low damage even if you have the damage reduction or ac to tank them. Some epic mobs will regenerate hp faster than you can damage them if you aren't prepared.

I have this problem with my bard. He has no trouble surviving, but doing enough damage in some areas can be tricky.

[Tobias]

Ok, so I'm hearing that its impossible to solo level 36+, but then we also have these people who're having great times in parties at 35+. Ideas on how to reconcile this?

You can always slightly broaden the level range for ideal parties to 4 or 5 levels even. This would make finding a party slightly easier at higher levels. When you're level 37 and there is a group of 5 level 32's running around it cant be discouraging to have to wait around or slowly grind someplace hoping they catch up to you before they decide to call it a night.

That or offer an XP bonus similar to the relic bonus for killing mobs above CR35. That could help move people along into the last 5 levels while still keeping it reasonable.

[mining]

Ok, so I'm hearing that its impossible to solo level 36+, but then we also have these people who're having great times in parties at 35+. Ideas on how to reconcile this?

You can always slightly broaden the level range for ideal parties to 4 or 5 levels even. This would make finding a party slightly easier at higher levels. When you're level 37 and there is a group of 5 level 32's running around it cant be discouraging to have to wait around or slowly grind someplace hoping they catch up to you before they decide to call it a night.

That or offer an XP bonus similar to the relic bonus for killing mobs above CR35. That could help move people along into the last 5 levels while still keeping it reasonable.

Well, the difference in XP for a 32 vs 37 killing a CR 37 is ~80% the XP - but the 37 needs to kill much harder monsters than the 32.

[Daral0085]

Yeah, which makes the reverse party tough for lower levels, being a 32 and wanting to join a group of 37s. It cuts down on the amount of XP you get by a lot, just by the nature of lvl 37 being slower. Of course, I suppose we have no need of mercy for 32s because they still have good options elsewhere?