Avendell rules

[Terminal Insanity]

No more avendell rules i take it?

I was just PK'd in avendell (i did not fight back)
I walk out, i kill a guard that attacks me and a DM punishes me for killing avendell guards.

Second time it's happened so i'm going to be a little more brutal this time... The rules that say "No PKing in avendell" are ignored, and there appears to be rules about killing guards that are posted nowhere... I know its beta but the DMs should at least know the rules before playing, or even attempting to DM...

Im sorry but i'm tired of loosing XP from DMs for defending myself against guards that attack me due to a bug in the game, while the people that PK in a zone thats clearly marked No PvP are let free...

Thankfully my client crashed during the DM's attempt to portal me in the middle of nowhere to kill me again...

[Dracovin]

Actually, I remember a DM stating that attacking guards in Avendell gives the Gods the right to smite you. It angers the Gods that you attack the peaceful lands. I can't remember where it is, but I do know it exists. So be wary

When it comes to being pk'd, the 3rd commandment states that you may not initiate (start, originate, etc.) combat in Avendell... so if someone attacks you, you can attack back (defending) and kill them I would assume.

Dracovin

[lord_modred]

further proof that this mod... it's DM's.... and it's community need alot of improvement...

[Ragefist]

1) Why do the Ave guards attack you? Unless it is for making scrolls in the shop and killing people accidentally, you also broke the rules.

2) Agreed, the DM's need to have total knowledge of the situation before they run willy-nilly axing people.

3) Yeah, the rules for Ave stand as far as I know, see the commandments page for em all.

4) Sucks that you were whacked in Ave, why not post the name of the player who perpetrated the heinous act?

[Draebor]

I don't think it's a bug, TI... you admitted in one of your posts that you've killed townsfolk and guards, thus making Avendell hostile toward you. If you choose to go to Avendell and defend yourself against guards attacking you, don't be surprised if someone misinterprets the situation.

I guess there's a price to pay for alienating all the towns.

[Terminal Insanity]

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i'd just like to point out, Griz had nothing to do with the attack... he was just watching and buffing and dident appear to attack ether of us, and i doubt he would have

i had previously PKed embergorn's other char in dark forrest about 10 minutes before his unprovoked attack in avendell... after i respawned i warned him i would defend myself, even in avendell, if he tried to attack me.

i am ABSOLUTLY sick of being punished for killing guards that ATTACK ME on sight. and then players that PK me, and i dont even fight back, just get ignored.
Maras is a definate problem for this... i ran around avendell and had him PK me at least 10 times, and then he just started following me around there casting mords, neg energy burst, and darkness on me.

It needs to stop. And me loosing all that XP and Gold for killing a guard that attacks me is pathetic. I should not be punished because of a buggy script. and Avendell is the only safehouse (well i guess not anymore) so i feel i have the right to clean out the guards so i can rest. You want to RP that part of it all, well then mabe i'll just take the Flesh to Stone spell again and stone the guards... Its not killing them...

Also, just a warning to all the players out there, if anyone attacks and kills me in avendell, i'm going to consider you open for stoneing and i wont finish the job. The DMs wont deal with you so i will. I get punished for killing avendell guards, and since the DMs dont get involved with anyone but me breaking hidden rules, i'll punish you for killing me in avendell.

I've also herd in IRC of someone getting slayed for killing within an areas reach of a bind point... Rules need to be re-read or at least clairified with ithe DMs...

And for the record, the Commandments say i cant initiate combat in avendell... so i guess that means i'm allowed to defend myself? if so, i did not break the rules by killing the guards. and i wont be breaking the rules for PKing people that attack me in avendell. Although, i'll probably just stone them instead and leave them there as an example.


and you all think im just an annoying PKer... well i get that way cos i find it funny to watch idiots cry about it. If i PK you and you ran a long way to get to where you where, or some other fairly legit reason to why the PK was lame (other then you dont like being PKed), if you ask politely i'd raise you if i have scrolls. Im not a horrible person, i just like PvP. Its a PvP server and when you die from my spells it costs you ZERO xp. Dont take it personaly. I kill you because you are hostile. Not because i have some sort of hatred for you ...
well, unless you like to logout during combat, then i'll hunt you down forever... i have a pice of paper with all your names and logins written down and i'll look through the player list to see if any are on for me to hunt every time i connect

[TheBestDeception]

Be warned travelers - any disturbances within the walls of Avendell are subject to the God's wrath.

How much more clear can it be?

So the guards are hostile to you Nom? WHY IN THE NAME OF LOGIC DO YOU HANG OUT IN A HOSTILE TOWN?!? You were banished from it, then complain when you go back to it and are attacked. Stay away from it and quit complaining.

I've also herd in IRC of someone getting slayed for killing within an areas reach of a bind point... Rules need to be re-read or at least clairified with ithe DMs...

A certain DM slayed several of us for hanging out in the dark forest. The reason was said to be because we were PK'ing outside avendell (although when i was first slayed, NO ONE was in my range...I was casting spells on the ground ). There was never a clarification of this made by any other DM's and it certainly isnt posted in the commandments...so im guessing the DM was simply in a bad mood (warranting another )

[Draebor]

i had previously PKed embergorn's other char in dark forrest about 10 minutes before his unprovoked attack in avendell... after i respawned i warned him i would defend myself, even in avendell, if he tried to attack me.

What exactly are you considering an unprovoked attack? You think you can just run through the server PKing at will and then expect everyone to go about their business?

I kill you because you are hostile. Not because i have some sort of hatred for you ... well, unless you like to logout during combat, then i'll hunt you down forever... i have a pice of paper with all your names and logins written down and i'll look through the player list to see if any are on for me to hunt every time i connect

"Hunt you down forever" sounds to me very similar to the way people hunt YOU down and debuff you after they've been wronged, so it sounds like you may indeed understand where they're coming from. My character is 20 levels below yours. Now there isn't a chance in hell that I can BEAT you, but I can definitely hinder your progress if I see you. I'm sure you'll kill me for it, but apparently that's no different from how you'd react if I'd never had any prior contact with you (speaking from my character's POV here... I don't have anything against you personally).

If you choose to RP an evil character that kills indiscriminately, I almost consider it my DUTY to the other players on this server to try to stop you from preying on those that can't fairly defend themselves (unless of course I'm evil too). Maybe that's how the Avendell guards feel.

and you all think im just an annoying PKer... well i get that way cos i find it funny to watch idiots cry about it.

That is the DEFINITION of an annoying PKer. Take a look at the cause and effect here: You PK... people complain... you PK more. It starts and ends with YOU.

[Terminal Insanity]

What exactly are you considering an unprovoked attack? You think you can just run through the server PKing at will and then expect everyone to go about their business?

I was refering to PKing in avendell, and that i did not initiate the battle. Avendell is supposed to be off limits to PvP, and i was attacked on sight in there, by a player, and i made no hostile action towards him while i was in avendell.

"Hunt you down forever" sounds to me very similar to the way people hunt YOU down and debuff you after they've been wronged, so it sounds like you may indeed understand where they're coming from.

What are you even talking about? I only debuff people i'm trying to kill. I dont just debuff people and not kill them... Debuffing someone is a hostile action in my opinion, but at very least, you must admit debuffing, and draining attributes is a hostile action.

If you choose to RP an evil character that kills indiscriminately, I almost consider it my DUTY to the other players on this server to try to stop you from preying on those that can't fairly defend themselves (unless of course I'm evil too). Maybe that's how the Avendell guards feel.

I agree, thats why i PLAY evil, because i want people to come after me. This is not the point of the thread, or even a question. The problem is, he PKs and attacks me in a NO PVP zone. it does not matter what he feels about me personaly in character or out of character. He should NOT BE PKING IN AVENDELL AT ALL. he should NOT BE making any hostile actions towards people in avendell.

That is the DEFINITION of an annoying PKer. Take a look at the cause and effect here: You PK... people complain... you PK more. It starts and ends with YOU.

Re: The above.



and finaly. If the gods want to RP something, then mabe they should slay the guards for attacking me, instead of slaying me for defending myself. Otherwize i'll be a nice citizen and do what people dont get punished for... kill players in avendell instead.