Flesh to Stone

[Amoenotep]

DO NOT USE FLESH TO STONE IN PVP



this is the answer we are going for on this subject. you can use it in pvm all you want, but do not for any reason try to use it on other players.

i hope this clears up any confusion to anyone.

[Lework]

I believe you mean flesh to stone.

[MLoki]

DO NOT USE STONE TO FLESH IN PVP

Personally I don't think "Stone to Flesh" is all that usefull in PvP anyways. I mean wouldn't it only work on players that have Stone Skin up?

But as far as Flesh to Stone is concerned is this the official answer or just your answer Amoenotep since the Devs haven't specifically said this and it has already been pointed out how not to cause xp loss with this spell.

MLoki

[Metis]

He meant flesh to stone

[Netrom.dk]

That is an official answer

[-BannyD-]

*sigh* another spell gone to scraps, might as well lose any sort of spell focus's and just spam IGMS all day. I guess if you get good at aiming you can still do some damage...

[Cthulhu Drega]

how about instead of complaining that its one less spell to use we make suggestions for other less useful spells to be revamped


oh look heres a thread ....

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns4/viewtopic.php?t=5475

[Binkyuk]

only reason F2S has resurged is 'cos people are taking GSF: transmutation for Time Stop. never used to be a major issue, so we're hardly losing anything.

[-BannyD-]

it was still a great spell that is now useless focusing in. epic mobs have too high saves for any spell with a save so its only function was for PvP and maybe powerleveling.

[TGPO]

I found this in a thread posted 2 years ago:

III Thou shat not exploit known bugs with the intention of causing another player to suffer a respawn penalty. This includes the Flesh to Stone bug" bug.

Guess what, its in the Commandments. Funny how a little reading now and then helps, then again I can understand for some of our more colorfull personalities we have had visit us over the years reading may not be a strong point. But c'mon, even TerminalInsanity knew that one.

[-BannyD-]

the "bug" was thought to be if they respawn while stoned they got an XP penalty, i dont think many knew that it would still give you an XP penalty if you killed the stoned toon and then respawned.

known bugs are easy to avoid, unknown ones arent..and from the rules it doesnt sounds like Flesh to Stone was prohibited from pvp, this clarifies it though

[Falazure-]

Just so everyone knows. It was me using Flesh To Stone.Unknown-2 (Slave Agony),some ppl think thief1 (Dart) was the one.

I thought as long as you killed the person or raised them it was fine,guess iwas wrong.I wont be using it to pvp anymore,But i would like something to be done about it,at least some sort of revamp.

example=an improved slow spell ? seeing that transmute spell was toned down to 1 target.the stoned victim can still move etc but at a reduced speed if failed save,minus 1 attack etc,but unlike the slow spell,haste cant counter it maybe or some other idea.Dont just throw it out the window,we didnt ban shifters for causing the whole server to lose exp several times,im sure we can come up with something better.

look at timestop for instance,great change,bigby etc,anything other then throwing another spell out.

[-BannyD-]

that actually sounds really good...there is an effect like that, chaos shield applies it...that 'icy' skin look. except to make this different than slow...it should bypass any sort of immunities like the bigby stun does.

[Mr. O'Dearly]

or make it like hold person but bypasses immunities.

that is, in essence, all flesh to stone really is...

[-BannyD-]

or make it like hold person but bypasses immunities.

that is, in essence, all flesh to stone really is...

very true..