Your RDD and max STR

[Gumppy]

Ok can someone help me out here , i have been told that u can only ever add 12 to your base ( i.e. White str score???)

I have a half-ogre barbarian/bard/rdd my question basically is what applies to this base STR -

1. Does the +2 str book i used add to my base or not ?
2. where does my +6(currently) from raging fit in here.
3. Where does the +8 str from RDD fit as well ?

I would really appreciate any help with this because im hoping i dont waste 10 RDD lvls - i have had a few differing answers in game ( like there isnt a str cap so u caan get to 50 ) TY kindly

[P. Fricebottle]

They're liars. The +12 bonus max only applies to the green/red bonuses. I believe thats where your greater barbarian's rage fits.

[Cthulhu Drega]

to break it down if you started with max half orc base skin str of 20 + 4 more for the half ogre + 8 for 10 levels of RDD = 32str this would be your base white number ( anything that adds numbers to stats in their base form ( white) does not count to the +12 cap.

things like gauntlets enchantments and job bonuses add their numbers in green these are the ones that are limited to 12

if im correct powers like rage do NOT count tward the 12 cap otherwise why even bother taking greater rage ( the +8 str and con feat) i may be wrong but im fairly certian that biowear would of got manny complaints if it does cout to the +12 cap

[CrazyJ]

Rage does count towards the cap.

[Sparky]

Rage counts towards your cap.

Tomes and RDD bonuses do not.

[Zhorn]

This is why Bastions of War changed the barbarian feats to give you a +BAB and +damage increase as everyone already has maxed their primary stats through crafted gear.

I dont suppose a similar thing is needed here?

[Myrdyr]

I dont suppose a similar thing is needed here?

Barbarians need lots more help than that. Barbarian/rdd/half-ogres not so much.

[Gumppy]

well ok thankyou all for those replies, i can see ehy its a little confusing
I will not therefore be taking the +8 rage feat because it wasted.

The way i understand it my +6 rage + my +5 str gloves are already +11 so even a bulls strength will give me only 1 and the maxed out 12.

So ill get 8 (rdd) + 2 (tome) + base i had as halfogre with my 4 AB increases ive used on str ..... excellent - im also assuming that were i too use the epic str feats these are white increases ?

Thanks again

[Cthulhu Drega]

yes feat stat points are white

[IcemanXV]

With a book, all 10 epic str feats, RDD, max base str, and all 10 stat adjustments up until level 40, your white str will be 54 and your green max str will be 66. 66 is a +28 stat. So that's +42 weapon damage if you're using a 2 hander.

[Alain]

max str is 49, you cant take 10 epic str feats.

[IcemanXV]

Then why does the manual say you can?

[Mr. O'Dearly]

its the standard max the game will allow for any of the greater stat increase feats. It just so happens that there is no class combination that will allow you to take ten greater strengths by level 40. You can hit that limit with some other stats.

You just cant take that many feats.

[Alain]

its the standard max the game will allow for any of the greater stat increase feats. It just so happens that there is no class combination that will allow you to take ten greater strengths by level 40. You can hit that limit with some other stats.

You just cant take that many feats.

Exactly. If you can tell me what classes allow great strength as an epic class feat then ill ammend my previous statement.

[P. Fricebottle]

You can take a maximum of 7 Greater Strengths. That assuming you take a Greater Strength each level at 21,24,27,30,33,36, and 39 and no other feats on those levels.