dragon fear aura

[Jacks Revenge]

We dont know our DC till it hits someone, I believe its random for every person who comes into the aura.

[weasel423]

Just in case you dont remember, The AO Relic room used to have much more cut off points, it was changed a little bit after the wipe (for those of you who dont remember it) so one choke point isnt that bad, besides you dont have TC's relic room so you should be happy. You wanna see bad choke points look at NC's relic room (im not complaining) going in three different doors just to get to the cradle is instant death by NC pali's. Speaking of the Barb DC used to be much better till a certian dev. nerfed it. I dont think the dragon fear aura is by any means a bad thing, its totally random, its the luck of the roll. You fail you die simple as that.

I'm was not suggesting that we had the only "open" relic room. Just suggesting that things could be made a little more even as far as layout goes. And yeah, I'm sure glad we don't have TC's chamber (although you can almost catch the entire chamber in a hellball)

[ashsagoon]

@Bargeld: It's a random DC everytime a new person enters the aura. It is not set upon shifting. You can have two people run at you and get a different DC on each person (IE: First person gets DC 31 and second gets DC 50). It's 30+roll each time you enter the aura (except for the 2 turn or so immunity between fears).

Basically you're only gonna check on the fear once and if you pass it you're fine.

You SL guys need to read the articles here: http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Saving_Throws
I know you guys don't know what Saving Throws are but it's a good time to learn.

[Bargeld]

gotcha, thanx for clarification, as i (obviously) wasn't aware of the specifics.

[Cijah]

Can we get a Moratorium on Whining please - say 3-6 months. This past year has seen the most amount of whining I can recall in the 5 years I have been here.

The sad thing is the whiners have affected many changes - to the detriment of the server and have ruined existing builds. How is this adding to the enjoyment of the collective?

There should only be complaints/feedback where there is an obvious exploit or bug. I don't believe this to be the case here. Anything else is a whine even if prefaced with "This is an observation not a whine".

There are many other important tasks to be done by the devs and dms who work for free than pander to a selective minority.

Suck it up and play the game!

[Tal]

Can we get a Moratorium on Whining please - say 3-6 months. This past year has seen the most amount of whining I can recall in the 5 years I have been here.

The sad thing is the whiners have affected many changes - to the detriment of the server and have ruined existing builds. How is this adding to the enjoyment of the collective?

There should only be complaints/feedback where there is an obvious exploit or bug. I don't believe this to be the case here. Anything else is a whine even if prefaced with "This is an observation not a whine".

There are many other important tasks to be done by the devs and dms who work for free than pander to a selective minority.

Suck it up and play the game!

LMAO.. talk about a useless post. Did a Dev hit his brain with a nerf wand?

Feedback is important when changes are made by dev's. Whether or not they listen to it is an entirely different story.

[mgrjebbo]

You could leave for 5 years and come back to these boards and still read the same things being posted.


Dev makes changes, players whine, dev changes things back slightly, players still whine, players then whine about whining players, Kim locks topic.

^Now that was a useless post.

[Bishop99]

You gotta admit something is wrong when you get hit by a completely debilitating effect which requires no action, is automatic, targets everyone, has unlimited uses and has a DC above 50. (i checked the log, my save was vs a 54 DC)

I'm just asking for a little balance. Put this in line with all the other abilities. Can you name one ability that even comes close to this one?

[Shhhhhhh]

What ability was it that had the 54 DC?

[cRaZy8or5e]

A dragon shifter fear aura of 54 is not possible by what is listed on the wiki and change log, but only just barely. (In fact one page on the wiki states that shifter fear aura DC is 20+ wisdom modifier, another page has it listed as 30).

Take a 12druid/28 shifter, that maxxed out wisdom for example.

Shifter fear aura is 30 + wisdom modifier. You get 7 epic feats, and 6 bonus feats from shifter levels. Use one feat for Dragon Shape, leaving you with 12 feats to play with still. That allows the builder to take greater wisdom X, so starting at 20 wisdom, +10 levelup progression, +10 from feats, +4 book, +12 gear and buffs = 56 wisdom = 23 wisdom modifier

So 23 wis mod +30 = 53 DC fear aura.

You've still got two feats leftover, Undead shape and construct shape?

I never even saw any shifter dragons that day. I did see lots of RDD dragons and a couple DM druid dragons. Pure druids don't get the fear aura.

54 DC? DM toon? Maybe? everyone knows those dirty DM's are CHEATERS!

Any resolution/info on this from on high? *cocks ear towards the heavens* oh wait, *turns ear towards fiery depths of the earth below*

[Tsavong]

Well if that's the case for shifters and if the change log, Tru and I are right about RDD fear the only fear i can think off that might have a fear DC that high is a barbarian.

[Shhhhhhh]

Which makes complaining about it in this topic a bit odd

[cRaZy8or5e]

Are there items on this server that can get an intimidate score that high? 72 Intimidate score? That is if it's Intimidate*3/4 to figure the score for terrifying rage aura.

[weasel423]

Are there items on this server that can get an intimidate score that high? 72 Intimidate score? That is if it's Intimidate*3/4 to figure the score for terrifying rage aura.

If it is modified intimidate:
43 base + 10 esf + 10 bardsong + 9 cha mod (is that what intimidate check is) = 72

[Cluster]

If there was a 54 DC fear aura, it was not coming from the RDD Dragon, it was coming from the Drood Dragon that was also in the room.