Amoenotep wrote:aaahahahah..burra is dumb!
Rainswept wrote:Oh my. I need to go add a little something to my sig, pardon me.
When building for spell DC's, yeah. It seems to be all-or-nothing when it comes to DC based casters, so if you can't get at least dc 46 level 9 spells, you might as well just forget about it and focus on no-save spells and survivability. On a cleric you'll probably need at least 35 cleric levels unless you just ice storm everything or focus on no spell resist DC-based spells. Anything less than that and you might as well just make it an archer or meleer of some kind with party support abilities.Lokey wrote:When using spells: spell dc, caster level, survivability usually in that order for best results. Other numbers with other builds are more flexible, but a point of dc might double your effectiveness sometimes
Careful - crazy'll challenge you with Beekerburrahobbit wrote:If you cant kill a CoT with a mage you shouldn't play mages. The ability of a mage to stay out of melee range of a CoT isn't difficult. If the CoT catches you at a transition and chain kd's you to death that's just bad luck. If you choose to engage a melee char in a small compact area with a mage your stupid. I've played both sides of this extensively. Mages are stupid overpowered, the majority of you just suck at them.
I'll put my money where my mouth is and extend a Thunderdome challenge to any CoT that wishes to come and play. Bring your stunners, that would be most entertaining for me. I may not win, but the odds are stacked heavily in my favor as I'm just that awesome. Ask me about it, i'll tell you, I love talking about how great I am.
p.s. once I lose, its over. I may have several mages but I don't feel like losing them all on account of drunken boasts.........
This is perhaps the best argument for a seasoned server database and what could be lost in a wipe. This game is too old to try to achieve this kind of dynamic again. I'm sure some could argue how this is a bad thing, but what would be worse is if the "good fights" ceased to exist anymore.alasteir wrote:Every fight on this server is decided by teamwork, sheer numbers, or possibly dumb luck......not by some faction token. Almost every veteran player knows counters to TCNC builds......for example, if I raid the RK with a certain toon, I can easily predict what Tru3 will log......same goes with raiding either Garagoth or Menzo.......I know what Alka, Bargeld, JP, Dethonlegs,weasel, or others are going to log.......we all know it.....there is no mystery. And the same holds true for the opposite.......we know what they will log to counter us, and they know what the TCNC will log to counter them.
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.
New stuff is never worth it. We should have stopped with Pong. All our computer gaming needs were met at that moment in time.Bargeld wrote: is adding the the stuff that requires wipe worth it?
Bargeld wrote:Overall, I think most would agree that a pure rogue is probably the worst build on the server.
And what a moment in time it was!Monkey wrote:We should have stopped with Pong. All our computer gaming needs were met at that moment in time.
during a time, one of my toon was sensible to RK token who kd....i died many times for this and never complain about it...token was using extreme debility of one of my save...my toon was responsible, i delevel in order to fix it...Every fight on this server is decided by teamwork, sheer numbers, or possibly dumb luck......not by some faction token. Almost every veteran player knows counters to TCNC builds......for example, if I raid the RK with a certain toon, I can easily predict what Tru3 will log......same goes with raiding either Garagoth or Menzo.......I know what Alka, Bargeld, JP, Dethonlegs,weasel, or others are going to log.......we all know it.....there is no mystery. And the same holds true for the opposite.......we know what they will log to counter us, and they know what the TCNC will log to counter them.
Here a solution, making a list of things who will need a wype if changed...Players who don't want wype, will stop complaining about it...Here complain is not really the best word, as many times players try to gives opinions in order to best the server...When something umbalanced, some guys will complains if it, some will defend it, and DM/Devs will take a decision if they have to take it....At more balance, more fun...make a pole about wipe...The point is, there's still meaningful solutions and meaningful things we can do to the server without wiping - and the payoff beats the loss, as far as that goes, if not by a country mile, then at least by enough that you guys can stop worrying.
