Subrace stat descriptions...

X-I-L · Post by **X-I-L** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:15 am

OK this is just confusing and slightly annoying, as the descriptions on both the website and the subrace menu in game differ from what happens in game. For example, I create a strongheart halfling that according to the site should give +2 Str -2 Wis, however the description on the subrace menu says +2 Con -2 Wis. So according to the subrace menu if I create a halfling with stats of:
12 Str, 10 Con, 18 Dex, 10 Wis, 10 Int, 15 Cha

then a strongheart halfling should end up with stats of:
12 Str, 12 Con, 18 Dex, 8 Wis, 10 Int, 15 Cha

which is fine. However what I actually end up with is:
14 Str, 18 Dex, 12 Con, 10 Wis, 10 Int, 15 Cha

However upon relogging the stats change again to:
14 Str, 16 Dex, 12 Con, 8 Wis, 10 Int, 15 Cha

Where did this -2 Dex come from?

Wasnt mentioned anywhere and has now effectively killed my build

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:03 am

Strongheart halflings aren't supposed to get the +2 to dex the default halflings get. Due to some engine limitations, the game assigns the +2 on character creation anyways, and the only way to get rid of it at the moment is to apply a -2 dex penalty.

So for example, if you want the 18 dex on a strongheart, you need to set it to 20 when you make the character.

Throst54 · Post by **Throst54** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:02 pm

i'm wondering why perm stat change hasnt been implemtned yet?

Post by **Lokey** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:39 pm

Because you haven't written an app to do it yet

Get on it Throst!

Terminal Insanity · Post by **Terminal Insanity** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:52 pm

something else annoying...
http://www.nsrealm.com/boards/viewtopic ... 1258#gnome

The subrace Deep Gnome is listed and then in the description "Also known as Svirfneblin"... But in-game its the other way around... the subrace is Svirfneblin and the only time you hear "Deep Gnome" is in the website docs...
I know its a bit picky but i never read the description... only the name and the bonuses/negatives that come with it, and then was kinda lost when i thought my subrace was missing from the list heh...

Mabe change the docs to "Svirfneblin", also known as "Deep Gnome"

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:18 pm

...and it's easier to spell, too...

Throst54 · Post by **Throst54** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:25 am

Lokey wrote:Because you haven't written an app to do it yet ;) Get on it Throst!

i dont mean to affend any1.. but maybe you should contant DCmage and see how he got it to work?

DM Talon of Aantioch · Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:51 pm

Both Joran and Lokey both have my msn contact Throst m8, I do not feel that they would want 3rd party help though against the rules ain't it Guy's?
Plus I think I may have peeved them off.....understandable it is.

You can add permenant stats through NWNX but then you would have to be using this for rebooting the server's....

Post by **Lokey** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 3:48 pm

Heh, that's right I do...been a while and haven't been using MSN lately

Yes NWNx is the way to do it--ODBC connection that can fire an app to modify game files, downside is that it takes a boot to do it. Off the shelf there's Red Golem's AutoBic, works nice but has the downside of being Java (another app to run) and that it polls the server log (which gets big--you need to run in debug mode for NWNx to work in the first place).

The decision on this is to write a small memory footprint app that is fired through NWNx or MySQL to do character alterations. Taking the time to do a half fix now isn't worth it, too much else to work on.

Terminal Insanity · Post by **Terminal Insanity** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:35 pm

is Red Golem's AutoBic opensource? if so just see how he did it and rewrite it in C o_O

Post by **Lokey** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 2:27 am

Thought I said how he did it Terminal, did I stutter?

Ok, found an NWNx plugin by Ângelo Cossa that looks real nice, and is probably the one you're talking about Talon. Thanks.