"Level 32+ & SD(2+)" - yeah.. it takes a LONG time to get to level 33, 34, and beyond but even 37 is possible with enough dedication... but still, it's true, if you are doing a strong mage build, you're gonna want 30 levels in it before multiclassing, so you're not gonna see anyone building more than 1 or 2 SD levels until 40 is (more ea$ily) attainable.
"paladin, monk" - of course those are cheesy too, but in a similar way, taking more paladin levels gives you some extra bonuses like access to the 2 divine feats, and monk has tons of great free feats that you'd be nuts not to take..ie: 6 levels for kd/ikd or 12 for SR...etc...
But still, if I was going to make a build with 6 monk, I wouldn't want to have to take 5 of those levels consecutively...that would really hurt playability.
Anyhow, I think the best solution is to let it all ride and just finish the content of the MOD, the players will work to balance things out... they will learn to join parties to defeat griefers and all will be fun for all playstyles, PvM, PvP, RP or just socializing....
This wont make me any friends but SD...
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I have been on a couple servers where they force you to take a minimum of 6 levels in each class. This effectively breaks most power builds and forces one to choose the best path for their characters.
I also loooooovvvvvvveeeeeeee the idea of having SD as a Faction only Class. This takes one of the most formidable classes and forces one to choose sides from the start. It also makes it easier to spot those taking it just as a ploy to be uber. It is a nice thought to know every caster I meet wont be a SD.
I have been on a couple servers where they force you to take a minimum of 6 levels in each class. This effectively breaks most power builds and forces one to choose the best path for their characters.
I also loooooovvvvvvveeeeeeee the idea of having SD as a Faction only Class. This takes one of the most formidable classes and forces one to choose sides from the start. It also makes it easier to spot those taking it just as a ploy to be uber. It is a nice thought to know every caster I meet wont be a SD.
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Death Dealer1 wrote:yeah, my rogue gets spotted all the dang time by casters with their uber spot and buffs.....7 lvls under me and they outclass my skills by about 20 or so.....how fair is that?
i'm not all casters.... just say it... "Kromix Pwns me... and i cant do anyhing about it."
i bet u nom cant spot you... because he cant spot me...
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I agree with SD becoming a prestige class for Shadow Legion. Assassin is hardly ever played. Making assassin available to everyone would make it more appealing though some way to stop ranger/assassins sprouting would need to be looked at through the faction system or alignment restrictions.
I believe that a minimum of levels should be set for a character wanting to multiclass. For example a scale like so:
To reach/ must have:
21 / min of 3 levels in a second class and a third class
24 / min of 4 levels in a second class and a third class
27 / min of 5 levels in a second class and a third class
30+ / min of 6 levels (maxed) in a second class and a third class
So you could have a 15/3/3 or a 18/3 at 21st
or you could have a 28/6/6 or 34/6 at 40th
Is this achievable?
At the very least it would allow people to make up some "rogue" builds (sorry about the pun) and not rely on net-built toons.
I believe that a minimum of levels should be set for a character wanting to multiclass. For example a scale like so:
To reach/ must have:
21 / min of 3 levels in a second class and a third class
24 / min of 4 levels in a second class and a third class
27 / min of 5 levels in a second class and a third class
30+ / min of 6 levels (maxed) in a second class and a third class
So you could have a 15/3/3 or a 18/3 at 21st
or you could have a 28/6/6 or 34/6 at 40th
Is this achievable?
At the very least it would allow people to make up some "rogue" builds (sorry about the pun) and not rely on net-built toons.
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It would only affect those that took a second or third class. A pure toon who was straight one class would not be affected. Only if you take a second and or a third class would you be required to have at least 3 levels in each one.
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It's not that Rangers have to be good (God bless the good ol' days of AD&D), but that Ranger is a prohibited class for SL. Just like no extremely strange builds with Palemaster and Druid!Btw, Ranger/Assassin classes already can't exist here because of Alignment restrictions. Ranger must be good while Assassin must be evil.
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i talked to a pure lvl 30 wiz..spot was close to 40...fully buffed would end up around 70.....how many ppl get 70 hide/ms at lvl 40? SD is going to become the new druid/monky....if you want the good benefits from it you have to go pure one way or the other, if you want a watered down version of suck.....multiclass. although, i do like watered down.
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Yeah.. AND not only that.. but i've done some SD vs BARD tests, and if your spot or listen is even around 5-9 LOWER than the SD's Hide or MS, it doesn't take much to detect them! PLUS there is no notification that you have been spotted (like there is vs. mobs) so SD isn't all THAT spectacular.
Overall, SD is pretty decent against mobs, and players with insufficient means to detect them... plus there are actually some techniques you can use to make a SD more effective.
So either as an open PRC or a Faction PRC, it's not the end-all-be-all class, so I don't see much problem with it as it is...
Overall, SD is pretty decent against mobs, and players with insufficient means to detect them... plus there are actually some techniques you can use to make a SD more effective.
So either as an open PRC or a Faction PRC, it's not the end-all-be-all class, so I don't see much problem with it as it is...
I strongly DISAGREE with any insane restrictions like that, and I will NEVER play on an 'action' server with any kind restricted building rules implemented! I like how NS4 is NOW, as I've said in the past, too many rules and regulations will likely cause a mass-exodus and the server will die forever.To reach/ must have:
21 / min of 3 levels in a second class and a third class
24 / min of 4 levels in a second class and a third class
27 / min of 5 levels in a second class and a third class
30+ / min of 6 levels (maxed) in a second class and a third class
