new races!

|-Ifrit-| · Post by **|-Ifrit-|** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:22 am

Anyway back the the point in general we need more Orc, Dwarf and gnome subraces, maybe even halfling ones

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:34 pm

Doesn't really matter to me, I'm not a huge fan of subraces, particularly the several million elf subraces that have appeared over the years. The thing with half-orc though, is that really there's little that can be done with a half-orc except the dumb barbarian.

lord_modred · Post by **lord_modred** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:20 pm

half orc casters are fun

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:34 pm

lord_modred wrote:half orc casters are fun

Yeah, especially with that -2 Int -2 Cha penalty.

Not that it isn't doable, but it isn't an optimal choice.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:54 pm

Cleric or Druid wouldn't suffer.

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:24 pm

Yeah, perhaps an evil subrace of half-orcs. These guys are Favored Class: Cleric, and are wiser than their lesser counterparts (+2 wis bonus). These are the ones that use their dumber folk as puppets, like Lord Grezor. Another bonus could be a +4/+2 constitution (casters in general would like that) but a -2 charisma, -2 int, and ECL +2/+1. Whichever fits.

Post by **Umpa** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:32 pm

Well there are a couple I can think of that might be interesting.

Minotaur
Dryad
Formian
Kobold
Werecat/Werewolf?
Pixie/brownie, but not sure if the gear would work.
Mind flayer
Baurius(spelling) - mini centaurs
Merfolk - we already have a city. Aquatic elf?
Drider as an epic for drow that reach it.

Perhaps implement pets for all these caster types with an empty ability.
FairDragon would be a cool pet, I think there is a script out there that has that on the Vault.

PeregrineV · Post by **PeregrineV** » Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:18 pm

Lizard Man would be neat.

|-Ifrit-| · Post by **|-Ifrit-|** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:08 am

Drider, thats a common mistake, All drow must take a test before lloth those that fail become Drider, Drider is a curse not a epic thing

Core · Post by **Core** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:48 am

Brownies and those Centuar things were originally ment to be player subrace options. I played around with them one time they can wear helmets and armor and it looks nice. Not junk like tring to wear armor on a troll form (stays naked) . I forget the centaur things name right now, but those were pretty cool cause they could dual weild Great swords, being large sized. The brownies were so small, funny little things. I don't remember if those were in a patch though or if they were part of CEP. Good ideas though.

edit: ya those were CEP NPC's you could use. Wemic and Brownies. They look great but I don't think NS4 will ever add CEP due to the huge size and the conflicts it would cause. Plus it's a huge hak pak download.