Epic Shadowlord request

[Phaedrus Firewyrm]

Did one of the devs get pwned by a buffed up class summon early in his pvp days or something? Humour aside, what exactly is this opposition to class as opposed to spell based summons? The only difference between the two is duration as far as I can tell. I really don't understand the resistance, especially when so much trouble has been put into buffing inherently lame spell summons.

Casters can't have familiars because. . .A level 40 imp with 17AC would just be a juggernaut of death and destruction, I guess? Is this also the logic for removing the cleric death domain summon and gutting the Shadowlord feat?

[Korr]

Did one of the devs get pwned by a buffed up class summon early in his pvp days or something? Humour aside, what exactly is this opposition to class as opposed to spell based summons? The only difference between the two is duration as far as I can tell. I really don't understand the resistance, especially when so much trouble has been put into buffing inherently lame spell summons.

Casters can't have familiars because. . .A level 40 imp with 17AC would just be a juggernaut of death and destruction, I guess? Is this also the logic for removing the cleric death domain summon and gutting the Shadowlord feat?

Familiars have problems all their own... such as a level 40 imp terrorizing the mountain while the caster sits safe in avendell. Thats just the beginning of what familiars can do as well.

Cleric death domain gives a boost to undead summons...

Shadowdancers get hips, do you really need a summon?

[LinuxPup]

Familiars were removed from NS4 due to server stability issues in some cases. To be honest I haven't tested to see if they were ever fixed or not.

You'll have to be more specific... has the Epic Shadowlord feat ever been used? As far as I know its been a pretty worthless feat, so we didn't really "gut" (nerf)... we just haven't messed with it at all. And yeah the cleric domain's summon sucks (or was it disabled... I forget), but that's really not high priority.

[Daltian]

I think duping was also possible using familiars.

[mining]

I think duping was also possible using familiars.

And I think it was possible to get past no PVP zones with them.

[John]

Good for you! Show them that righteous indignation. That will make them really get to work and fix and build your toon for you.
It is a free server, volunteer staff etc. etc. Deal with the shortcomings, we all have in some degree or another.
Orrr, you can always play somewhere else.

how about comin to play on ns4 and not just being a forum troll, Lorkar :O

[Phaedrus Firewyrm]

Wow, alright. I never really though of familiars being abused. That really is too bad because as a lvl 1 spellmonger thats really all you go. I spent three days as a level 1 sorcerer hunting rats, gaining 15 xp and going back 50.

And no, I don't really have any complaints with how the summons and familiars are handled, having an explanation helps alot with that

[Kromix]

must be doing something wrong then.

[mining]

Wow, alright. I never really though of familiars being abused. That really is too bad because as a lvl 1 spellmonger thats really all you go. I spent three days as a level 1 sorcerer hunting rats, gaining 15 xp and going back 50.

And no, I don't really have any complaints with how the summons and familiars are handled, having an explanation helps alot with that

I'd suggest summon creature, the sleep spell, and burning hands.

[Kromix]

i used burning hands, summon and ice ray thing

[mining]

i used burning hands, summon and ice ray thing

Sleep spell is really effective for taking out 3 or 4 golins.
Then your summon can finish them off.

[Kromix]

Sleep is for noobs

[Lorkar]

Good for you! Show them that righteous indignation. That will make them really get to work and fix and build your toon for you.
It is a free server, volunteer staff etc. etc. Deal with the shortcomings, we all have in some degree or another.
Orrr, you can always play somewhere else.

how about comin to play on ns4 and not just being a forum troll, Lorkar :O

I like being a forum troll.
Besides Evony provides more PvP satisfaction. Nothing like taking someones city that has paid a load of money to outfit and upgrade.
The crying they do sounds sooo much sweeter then. Unlike here where it just sounds like whining.
At least they havent nerfed the forums yet. HAHAHA!

[frogofpeace]

Haven't nerfed the forums? There used to be a SPAM thread ...

[Kromix]

Haven't nerfed the forums? There used to be a SPAM thread ...

http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns/viewto ... &t=1002291