The Crafting System enhancement thread

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:24 pm

I was thinking of that too Deathdealer but the sonic for AO just didn't seem to make much sense.

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:30 pm

so switch LA and AO...LA with sonic and AO with electric....doesn't really matter because the diversity of the dragon gaurds mean they could use most any elemental type they wanted.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:17 am

That's why I did it that way, SL consistantly has weapons with cold attack and armor with cold defense. AO was pretty much the odd faction, given that the guards there have equipment with 5 different elements (including a negative weapon). The unique weapons of MA have somic in several cases, so I put sonic for them. For the most part, I went with what was on existing equipment when I worked out these ideas.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:47 pm

Give AO magic dmg then. The purple kind, ya know?

Also let's lower the AC bonus on shields to help make it easier to justify 2 handed weapons, that or raise the bonus dmg on 2 handed weapons.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:16 pm

Also, the following weapons are missing from the Martial crafting stations: handaxe, light flail, light hammer, morningstar, quarterstaff, and spear. They should probably be added eventually to benefit characters that use these weapons (particularly halflings/gnomes that's can't use larger weapons, and there aren't any really good light flails or hammers). I know morningstar, quarterstaff and spear are technically simple weapons, but the Martial stations already have a few simple weapons already.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:27 pm

Just a further thought on lower shield ac bonus. Do it only for towershields.
Make playing a little person have an advantage aside from only being able to use small weapons.
Makes sense actually. The bigger the item is, the harder it can be to enchant, therefore while small shields maybe easily given +5 bonus, a large shield could only be given a +4, and tower a +3, for example.

Would help diversify item selection and make things look a little more interesting than seeing towershields all the time.

Spura · Post by **Spura** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:02 pm

Woah woah. Give some faction elemental damage and give some magical damage? Dudes, cold damamge for SL and magical for AO isn't comparable. For one, elemental resist spells don't cover magical damage and you can get feats vs cold,fire,sonic etc., but not against magical. Also neg energy damage on weapons again favors clerics and mages who have shadow shield and neg energy prot. Like they aren;t already by far the most powerful classes on the server.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:26 pm

Teh dragunz r majicull creechers!
Soh they imbyoo r eye'tems wit ther majicullness!

Seriously though, AO need ssomething going for it.

Spura · Post by **Spura** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:33 pm

LOL? Like they have all classes and aligments allowed along with a very powerful PrC. That's more than I could say for any other faction even LA. They are way more powerful as most factions as far as builds go.

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:54 pm

Yeah, AO has a TON going for it. DRAGON GUARDS which are REALLY TOUGH. Their Disciple Guardians are tough as well. Also they have no restrictions on classes nor races nor alignments. It may not have the best location for the relic cradle nor the best jobs (but RK, TC, and SL are lacking those as well with SL a leader in the relic race). Also it has the PrC of Red Dragon Disciple. Jobs coming in soon any, and there are TWO guilds in AO to compete in the relic crace. MA doesn't even have a guild, and LA, SL, NC, RK, and TC only have 1. So ha! You do have it good ya ungrateful man.

Back on topic, I'd like to see the Master Artisan for mage crafting finished before this. All this would be really nice and a great enhancement to the crafting system, but theres still jobs unfinished and no 33+ areas.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:15 pm

What's this I hear about MA Arcane Crafting?
http://www.nsrealm.com/boards/viewtopic ... 4413#34413
Looks good so far, could use more spell options on the wands, but meh.
Also why 50 charges on a staff where every spell costs 2? 25 and 1 would be so much more ergonomic!

Go'f · Post by **Go'f** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:54 pm

P. Fricebottle wrote:MA doesn't even have a guild, and LA, SL, NC, RK, and TC only have 1.

WRONG! SL has two guilds.

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:10 pm

House Del' Taco doesn't count, lol jk.

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:18 pm

MA arcane IS finished...from talking to other players who've tried it and on my own arcane cradfter, it seems its bugged with sorcerers — they can't reach MA but wizards can.

And while Jester showed us some nice pretty pictures of MA arcane items, let me point you to the REAL arcane crafting post Flailer posted months ago:

http://www.nsrealm.com/boards/viewtopic ... ght=#22802

Elagneros · Post by **Elagneros** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:36 am