FEED BACK PLZ

[Azeel3]

I have played on this server for more than four years, I was one of the only MD's to not be banned and I would hope ppl do not feel that I am one to whine or complain just to whine and complain. I try to follow the rules, even when I cannot understand the reasoning behind it's purpose.

As far as I know leveling a toon with freinds is why I play. Several of my good friends have asked several very good questions. What have we done wrong? We are leveling toons in a high plain area with toons that can not only get there, but can survive in numbers, and get good xp. We have been severally and I feel unfairly mistreated when all we where doing was playing the game for fun. Now Mistress Kim and several other DM's have repeatedly made playing completely unenjoyable for no dissernable reason.

Tonight we had hellball after hellball dropped on our party to kill us off. and taunted with something about "I forced the spawn and the spawn won." When that did not work she got a
new player to remove a relic form AO's cradle and not just any new player,but a RK player. from what we can tell now the relic sits within the compound of AO in an effort to deter our efforts to play the game. All a DM has to do is reset the relic, sayning you can't see it sounds to me like breaking the rules of neversummer, I could be wrong but doesn't rules, 8,9, 11, come to mind? But when I read the rules, this is what comes to mind. but that's just how I interpute it. The relic was moved out of play, players left the game because they where used to remove it, and the communitte itself was disrupted by making a dozen players give or take one stop playing to retrieve a relic, merely too "Stop play." I know form time to time it is precieved that some players are more than irrtated by these actions, but it is not disrespect, its taxation without representation.

All I have ever heard was the game basically serves the majority of the server, but that was when there was only six of us at the time. Now at any one time we are half the server, and basically enjoy the game together. we defend and raid and play to ourselves. We are banned for asking legitimate questions as to why the rules are changed on a whim, and are either banned or harrassed until we leave or cannot make a decent run at the game. It basically needs to stop. Taking relics out of cradles and putting them in unretravable places cause you can, is not only unfair its very un-DM like. The cradle would only tell us our relic is in sleeth if it where taken out of play or wa put somewhere unretrievable. It should not take six ppl asking a DM where their relic is to get it reset and returned. Dm's are suppose to push players to be more than they can be, inspire them to honestly praise them for their mighty deeds, challange us with quests and REWARD us with favor. When I am painted green loaded with 100 pound flowers i do not complain. I take it in stride, for many a time I was raised or moved form a wall by all of the might lords and lady's blessed to wear the title DM.

Let the game be the game,let the players who play enjoy the game. I paid good money for this game. I enjoy playing, and try to play within the rules. I ask TEP, The almight Deputy Dog and all of the dm's to please draw a clear line that can be followed so that we can all go about enjoying a wonderful game. Having ultimate power is a responsiblity, using it wisely is a right of passage that must be used wisely. If any dm has issues with me, the way I play just talk to me. I will listen, but all I ask in return is that I am given the same voice in discussion and an open mind to my voice.

Many of my friends work long hard hours and look forward to coming here blowing off a little steam and having some good clean fun. Killing off our party, lowering the cr on the monsters, hidding relics in unretravable places to tie up good plays is basically wrong any way you look at it, please stop. People that power level on this server, if the server is not full, leave them alone they spent money on cd's, extra computers, and a lot of time and effort to make really great toons. I am not the best builder or player, but I am porud to say i have been witness to some really great builds by really great players. Any one that as played with or against me knows that i fight a good fight and fight to win. I will play with anyone and fight anyone fairly. I humble ask the DM's to put what is being precieved by many players as personal grudges aside, and lets all get back to playing the game. please give me some feed back cause i'd like it to go back to how it was with good events, quests, and games.

Humble submitted by The Sandman of PWnD

[Lokey]

Those Catapults of Doom just rock don't they? When subtle DM hinting to not do the meta-gamey things done didn't work...

Thank them for finding a way over-CR'd monster though.

[Jacks Revenge]

So leveling in one spot is meta-gamey? I mean the gods forbid that we find a nice quiet place away from everyone else and grind out our levels there, Kinda like when the Slaves would always level in the fire plane. Well if this is now the case then lets make sure the DM's kill people running the boss circle between Dwarves, Alzarra, and the Fire Lord, Cause hitting them all repeatedly would not only be boss farming? but also metagaming for the most xp possible right?

[Cahaal]

Okay, I don't know the exact situation but if leveling in one place is metagaming then what about FD wolves, effreets, Ice trolls, and Ice Giants. All are different CR ratings and are constantly taken over and used over and over again. I have never had a DM say anything about killing all the effreets resting and repeating. Is this not allowed now? Thanks for your time and clarification.

[cRaZy8or5e]

I guess it depends on what kind of meta-gaming was goin on. If you're force spawning you're wrong. We all know or should know, (I thought it was an accepted norm and has been for a couple years now) that force spawning is wrong. Do we all do it, *innocent face* I have no idea what you're talking about. But I do know that IF I was to be caught force spawning, then I MIGHT expect there to be consequences.

I bring up the force spawning issue cuz the taunt from the DM said that you were.

However, if it was NOT a force spawning issue and more of a camping issue, then I don't understand that at all. Everyone camps. We're all very campy on this server. I don't see why camping would be an issue, especially considering that you were camping in such an out of the way place as to not be in any position to interfere with the rest of the server. I think Cahaal has some very legitimate questions in that respect, if that's what the problem was.

Or maybe its cuz you guys all stink and the DM's have very very very delicate olfactory senses. I mean I just heard that you guys stink, I can't smell you over burrabobbit and superporcupine. WHOA, talk about offensive smell. And I've heard that a harsh smell reduces their tolerance for players in general Except for me, cuz I smell like roses.

[MLoki]

This kinda sounds like one of my rants from a couple of years back when I was in DCN. Most of these things have happened to me in one form or another. The DMs tend to "play" with the group that is in power at the time. I know ::DD:: is taking a little break because it was starting to feel like the whole server was against them and now that they are gone the tables have turned on PWnD. I would say just deal with it and don't whine too much or you may be looking at a much longer break like I had.

[Lorkar]

AVLIS Rocks!!!!

[Tsavong]

Maby we should all go and read the commandments every now and then just to refresh are selvs of the rules.

Btw wall we are talking rules could someone clarfy rule VI -
"Thou shalt not relog any character during a relic raid, except to relog a defender character, unless a period of 30 minutes has passed since your last attempt with your original character. This includes any character involved in the transportation of relics."
It looks like it means you cant raid with one charicter say a PM from MA then log a munk form say TC to run it and finly log a 3rd charicter from what ever faction you wish to cap it, or am I wrong?

[Amoenotep]

Maby we should all go and read the commandments every now and then just to refresh are selvs of the rules.

Btw wall we are talking rules could someone clarfy rule VI -
"Thou shalt not relog any character during a relic raid, except to relog a defender character, unless a period of 30 minutes has passed since your last attempt with your original character. This includes any character involved in the transportation of relics."
It looks like it means you cant raid with one charicter say a PM from MA then log a munk form say TC to run it and finly log a 3rd charicter from what ever faction you wish to cap it, or am I wrong?

ur right

[Tsavong]

Thanks for the fast reply Amoenotep

[Amoenotep]

so we were farming a set of maps repeatedly working our way back and forth through them? or we were jumping back and forth between the same transition killnig the same 6 mobs repeatedly....

i only ask because there is a world of difference between those two types of farming.

[Cahaal]

In the case of effreets for example, I've seen toons kill all the mobs on the first map step outside, rest and repeat. This is not the only place that it happens but it is the most frequently used by most players. Most players can't handle Jinn in the next map with his 3 hellballs and so they just work the one map. Same with Ice giants. The first map is worked back and forth until the party can handle all 3 maps, since once you hit the second you have to go through all 3. I would just like clarification. I witnessed this happening in FD today and sent a server wide shout warning others about what had been put out here lest more players suffer what happened last night. Thanks for your time.

[Tru3Fals3]

i don't know why any of this is even called farming, its called getting xp, wasn't the purpose of these new areas to give people a new place to lvl and explore, don't know bout everyone else but this one incredibly boring server when all ya can do to lvl is grind the same old places where everyone else is, can we not go anywhere without it being called farming? its not like we kill those same mobs over and over for gear or that we are punching above our weight class or even powerlvling, its not like we are taking over the map or lagging the server or anything, its just a good place to lvl, i dont see the harm at all.

thats just my humble opinion.

[Tru3Fals3]

AVLIS Rocks!!!!

out of curiousity, how is Avlis? never actually tried it although ive heard some good things, role play or pvp or both??

[Lorkar]

Avlis is really tight. Quite a few races to choose from, really tight crafting system, 11 servers, a pretty cool death/netherworld depending on alignment. It is Role Play and PvP with cause and in character. Low Magic (been playing for a year+ and I havent seen anything over +3 yet. Skills and spells are very useful. Spells have been modified to a point where they work as they should. Very active staff (20+ that I know of). It is also password protected so not any tom, dick or harry can make a toon and wreak havoc like I saw a month ago here.
Avlis wiki link
http://wiki.avlis.org/Main_Page

I dont post this to draw players away, but to give some a breather due to server burnout and some recent hard feelings. It isnt anything like NS4 at all. You are not getting a 40 inside of a year no matter how hard you power game. All it is, is a place to take a break and have some fun without having to worry about being left in the proverbial dust.