More types of level 40 (+8) weapons

[weasel423]

Is there a reason there are only 2 weapons on NS4 that you can get which are +8? It seems to me that you would have more diversity in the weapons players are using and focusing in if you had a greater variety of weapons that had a +8 variation out there.

[LinuxPup]

I can think of at least 6 (that drop)... I'm sure there's probably more.

[MLoki]

There used to be a thread to post pics and stats of weapons to update the wiki from. I am assuming nobody takes the time to contribute to it anymore or they just haven't been found.

[weasel423]

so sorry, guess i was misinformed. I had only seen/heard of the Short Sword and Scythe.

[ashsagoon]

There's also a Greatsword, Trident, Longsword, and Dagger that I can think of. All but the trident drop off final bosses in the hardest zones. The trident drops off a mini boss but he's almost harder than the final boss so it's about even

[Lokey]

The trend is fewer +8 weaps, not more

General rule of thumb still up in the air, was thinking like kama max +6, one handed (especially finessable) +7, and +8 reserved for two handed or something with heavy restrictions. Then there's the shorty problem...at least we wouldn't need twice as many templates as the ns3.5 method (didn't have a lot of script commands when I did that).

[frogofpeace]

Is that related to the DR limits at all? (XX/+8 DR is generally the limit, right, for NS4 custom stuff like earth gen, epic warding, CoT, and dragon?)

[weasel423]

Is that related to the DR limits at all? (XX/+8 DR is generally the limit, right, for NS4 custom stuff like earth gen, epic warding, CoT, and dragon?)

that is actually why i was asking.

[cRaZy8or5e]

There's also a Greatsword, Trident, Longsword, and Dagger that I can think of. All but the trident drop off final bosses in the hardest zones. The trident drops off a mini boss but he's almost harder than the final boss so it's about even

There used to be a kama but I believe that may be DM drop only now.

[VagaStorm]

isnt cot +9 after it was "adjusted"?

[Cijah]

isnt cot +9 after it was "adjusted"?

Yes at CoT 30 Levels: receives damage reduction 25/+9

[Rufio]

Maybe if people leave dwarfs a little more they would find out there are other areas to explore

Or maybe they will just find out that their build sucks. That tends to happen in posi/negi/abyss/celestia/illithids/DE/DWP... *decides to stop here before ranting ensues*

[frogofpeace]

isnt cot +9 after it was "adjusted"?

Yes at CoT 30 Levels: receives damage reduction 25/+9

Oh, how nice, ty - you're right, just checked the change log.

[ashsagoon]

There's also a Greatsword, Trident, Longsword, and Dagger that I can think of. All but the trident drop off final bosses in the hardest zones. The trident drops off a mini boss but he's almost harder than the final boss so it's about even

There used to be a kama but I believe that may be DM drop only now.

There was the Draco Whip and Kama which were both +8 but haven't dropped in a long time.

I'll start another thread but I'm more interested in filling in the gaps on other weapons (like the Scythe where you go from a +5 to a +8, yes you can get the +6 IA but as far as magical weapons there are none for 15 levels).

[Chernobyl_Glow]

i hate the long wait on the scythe too but it hasn't detered anyone from using them. so i suppose the payoff is worth it. same with kamas. they are perfect in a lot of builds. there isn't a better than +6 version but still they are perfect for those same builds. i think the +7 hammers being added is great. the problem with the server as far as weapons is that they've picked what weapons you'll need to use based on what's available. if you understand what's available you'll never make one of the following:

Katana - can we just take this out? +5 is the best?
Sickle - what's a dex based melee druid to do? seriously, a skara sickle?
Mace - that darn impossible mace of menzoberra is the only on better than +5? as bad as the crit range on bludge weapons can we give them a little love?
Shortbow - we have three or +7 longbows and no +7 shortbows?
Crossbows - give us a reason to use some bolts. (not that there are any good bolt ammo)
Light Flail - ...nothin!
[censored] Sword - Its Exotic and Str based. Why not a +8 version. Just go longsword and save the feat. (lol censor)
Battle Axe - Zekinyon's the only one? That's a hard drop to get for the best BatAxe and its only +6?
Slings - nice sling available but no ammo for it. bummer.

just my thoughts. instead of boosting the items that people already lean towards, boost the ones that they don't. try and force some variety. even +7 and +6 versions are lacking in most of the above.

- glow -