Last new Aetheria maps?

[Terl]

When was the last time a map was added to Aetheria? Not planar mind you but terrestrial. Is there more than one continent? Is there underdark connecting the area around SL to the areas around the crypts(by Northern Coalition) and the mountain? Shouldn't there be? I have seen many cave entrances that could fit the bill but are unused. What about a desert type area similar to the Darken Rahl territory in 3.5? Couldn't some of the map areas in 3.5 be imported?
It just seems that 4 was scaled down for what seems to be relic raiding. If you look at 3.5 maps (continuity notwithstanding) the area between Avendell and LA is a considerable distance and seems to be expanded in 3.5 with that whole area that you can get the periannath gear and falme. Not to mention giant mountain and undermountain.
I know improvements are winding down with the coming of NS5 but I am sure NS4 will be played for some time after the debut of NS5. Don't get me wrong the planar areas are great, but some actually like running around killing and exploring without having to worry if your spot or listen isn't high enough to deal the latest batch of cheesy poofs.
There is I am sure many more maps waiting in the wings that have been made but not implemented.

[LinuxPup]

Some changes in the future will invalidate some of the map of Atheria...

[Amoenotep]

have you ever tried to walk around aetheria without the dragons?

2 islands, sunken and frostdale.

the maps between avendel and NS city aren't as many, but try going from LA to Daeron without using the dragons. take a stroll from sleeth to garagoth without the boats. ns4 is freakin huge...expanded in some areas, shortened in others for easier get a ways.


if it seems like things are shortened for relic raiding...thats because:

1. raiders use monks now, no one knows how to fight anymore
2. dragons whisk you away to foreign locales for fun in the sun quickly
3. relic raiders often take the most direct route for speed
4. everyone on the server lvls in the same places....even though there are a dozen other places to go for that lvl.

[diddy33]

I think there are other things that people are working on that would be more important at this time, like jobs, pures, and stuff like that. of course i would like to see NS even bigger, i've been playing this game for only about 5 months or so and i still haven't seen everything. In fact i've only visited a few of the planes and died to quickly to see all of it

[Terl]

Some changes in the future will invalidate some of the map of Atheria...

Care to elaborate? Or at least hint?

have you ever tried to walk around aetheria without the dragons?
I have walked from one corner to another without monks or haste since I play mostly melee non-caster.

2 islands, sunken and frostdale.
Both of these locales were in place when NS4 came out of beta. And BTW where is there a secondary location to level besides FD? Not to mention that FD was wickedly gutted after beta.

the maps between avendel and NS city aren't as many, but try going from LA to Daeron without using the dragons. take a stroll from sleeth to garagoth without the boats. ns4 is freakin huge...expanded in some areas, shortened in others for easier get a ways.


if it seems like things are shortened for relic raiding...thats because:

1. raiders use monks now, no one knows how to fight anymore
Not all can use monks
2. dragons whisk you away to foreign locales for fun in the sun quickly
Creates bigger problems than it solves
3. relic raiders often take the most direct route for speed
4. everyone on the server lvls in the same places....even though there are a dozen other places to go for that lvl.
After you get past 6th level I surely doubt that. Levels 6-10 you have ogre pass, haddon mirk, ash mountain and redhorn. From 10-16 you have giant mountain, inside ash mountain, Gnolls. There might be a few between NC and AO but not having played alot there I wont speculate as to what has what.

You have to figure that many places are inaccessible to some due to the fact that getting there takes a while and having to travel there on foot involves substantial risk, and after being pk'd 3 or 4 times trying to get there will discourage most from ever trying again. As well as the fact most play factions because it suits their style of play and seldom play others due to friends, guilds and personal preferences.

I was just thinking that Aetheria could use some additions is all.

[LinuxPup]

Care to elaborate? Or at least hint?

Can't put the new stuff in till 1.69 comes out...

[number one bastard]

have you ever tried to walk around aetheria without the dragons?

2 islands, sunken and frostdale.

the maps between avendel and NS city aren't as many, but try going from LA to Daeron without using the dragons. take a stroll from sleeth to garagoth without the boats. ns4 is freakin huge...expanded in some areas, shortened in others for easier get a ways.


if it seems like things are shortened for relic raiding...thats because:

1. raiders use monks now, no one knows how to fight anymore
2. dragons whisk you away to foreign locales for fun in the sun quickly
3. relic raiders often take the most direct route for speed
4. everyone on the server lvls in the same places....even though there are a dozen other places to go for that lvl.

i can't disagree with ya for the most part, but not all of us take the short way, or forgot how to fight, and with all due respect, those were the opposing ideas, but what about the suport, i for one am in favor of new areas, as well as 57% of the rest of the people who read forums and play NS4

[number one bastard]

Some changes in the future will invalidate some of the map of Atheria...

Care to elaborate? Or at least hint?

have you ever tried to walk around aetheria without the dragons?
I have walked from one corner to another without monks or haste since I play mostly melee non-caster.

2 islands, sunken and frostdale.
Both of these locales were in place when NS4 came out of beta. And BTW where is there a secondary location to level besides FD? Not to mention that FD was wickedly gutted after beta.

the maps between avendel and NS city aren't as many, but try going from LA to Daeron without using the dragons. take a stroll from sleeth to garagoth without the boats. ns4 is freakin huge...expanded in some areas, shortened in others for easier get a ways.


if it seems like things are shortened for relic raiding...thats because:

1. raiders use monks now, no one knows how to fight anymore
Not all can use monks
2. dragons whisk you away to foreign locales for fun in the sun quickly
Creates bigger problems than it solves
3. relic raiders often take the most direct route for speed
4. everyone on the server lvls in the same places....even though there are a dozen other places to go for that lvl.
After you get past 6th level I surely doubt that. Levels 6-10 you have ogre pass, haddon mirk, ash mountain and redhorn. From 10-16 you have giant mountain, inside ash mountain, Gnolls. There might be a few between NC and AO but not having played alot there I wont speculate as to what has what.

You have to figure that many places are inaccessible to some due to the fact that getting there takes a while and having to travel there on foot involves substantial risk, and after being pk'd 3 or 4 times trying to get there will discourage most from ever trying again. As well as the fact most play factions because it suits their style of play and seldom play others due to friends, guilds and personal preferences.

I was just thinking that Aetheria could use some additions is all.

im with ya , and support ya muh dude or dudette ( not sure which)

[Amoenotep]

wow...haha..


lvls 6-20 areas:

Giant mtn ogres
Old wyrm road
Yaun ti
Ash mts
Gnolls
Amazons
Haddon mirk
Mirk crypt
Ordean clan caves
Formians
Mezzoloths
Redhorn
Undead Mino lair
Tombs of Mortasai
Duergar
Sunken isle
Frostdale

Faction based killing:
7 faction cities for 16-23 range

Various factional outposts:
NC sub camps away from city
Sleeth outposts
SL outposts
LA southwall


is that enough areas to take you from lvls 6-20?

[Dalan]

Aye, seems enough area's.

When 1.69 is ready there will be more, so everyone wins!

p.s. Duergar Stronghold is an awesome place to adventure in, and an easy hike/ride from anywhere.
Just be careful, cause if I see ya leveling there.............your adventure will get more interesting.

[Terl]

wow...haha..


lvls 6-20 areas:

Giant mtn ogres
Old wyrm roadWould be on the way to mezzos
Yaun ti
Ash mtsbefore mezzo right?
Gnolls
Amazons2 maybe 3 maps, cant really count going up the valley since you get waxed very quickly.
Haddon mirk
Mirk cryptExtension of the mirk
Ordean clan cavesreached through haddon right?
FormiansA very high traffic PK crazy(read 30-40's killing lowbies) zone with the planar entrance and dragon there
Mezzolothsthe inside of ash mountains?
Redhorn
Undead Mino lairAn extension of the tomb, correct?
Tombs of Mortasai
DuergarNot a whole lot of fun unless you like being sneaked to death
Sunken isleThe guardians (the greataxe jobbers) are disproportionately more dangerous to the rest of the maps
FrostdaleA veritable grand central station, now more maps in FD would be nice.

Faction based killing:
7 faction cities for 16-23 rangeSome of which you dont dare go into until 26 or better namely AO with their true sight and uncanny knack for high rolls and not least dragons fear aura, and others having the high level PC defenders(if there were no worries about that I'd say cool but as soon as you are seen by a lowbie(or a high level PC if you are unlucky) they tell another member who then logs on and kills you in 2 maybe 3 hits and getting there by dragon or ferry gets expensive quickly). Not a whine mind you but a reason.

Various factional outposts:A single map a piece and a long way from one to the other
NC sub camps away from city
Sleeth outposts
SL outposts
LA southwall



is that enough areas to take you from lvls 6-20?

But what is the break down? Levels 1-5 around your own faction. Levels 6-10 ?, levels 10-16?, levels 16-25?.
Where do druids go from 16 to 22? Not FD. Well not giants to be sure.

[Go'f]

Where do druids go from 16 to 22? Not FD. Well not giants to be sure.

Druids can level in Amizons with a bit of hit and run also try busting up an enemy faction, works wonders for ones ego too... just stay away from the relic room and lowbie pc's and most players will leave you be (maybe because people don't explore there own faction once they are high level so they wont know your there)

[Amoenotep]

i'm not going to tell you how and where to lvl what class chars. if you going it alone you better just stick to the main roads because your obviously to afraid of higher risk when playing.

as for zon valley..if your running through it then your missing most of the fun

mino lair is by itself.

extensions to areas don't always reflect the same cr as the areas they are in. ordean caves in haddon are less cr than the mirk crypt are.

ash mtns has several zones up and down as well as inside with other creatures at lower lvls.

wyrm road is more than just "on the way to mezz" it has its own way of life and a dragon

giant mtn can get you from 5-20 if you work it from base to bottom.

take a friend somewhere hard and you'll notice that alot of those "scary" places aren't so scary and yield quite a bit of xp very fast

[LinuxPup]

I went to level up at Sanctum Arcanum once and was surprised how good the xp is... was around level 16 I think... but its been a while.

[$chase$]

lmao.. this whole thread.