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I start this thread to address issues and complaints raised in game, and to clear TC's name regarding epic spawn that occured today.

First background info:

Today, Inara Moon (TSS) and Netya'nis (TSS) were able to bring Melencia's relic back to Melencia. This started around 4:30 MST. After which solo LA raider attempted to steal TC's relic. When raid started there were no epic spawns.

That raider, entered and exited Wolf's den repeatedly to avoid direct melee combat with Netya'nis (a dragon build). The LA raider was a SD build. She enter and left multiple times with me in pursuit. This occured at least 4 times. Speed was on Raiders side and of course a slow dragon could not keep up. After getting tired of chasing and losing sight in Melencia only to find back at den, decided to sit in Wolf's Den where I knew raider would eventually come back. Found epic spawns were there. The Raider's Entering and Leaving Tactic to avoid Player defender caused the spawn.

Upon discovering epic spawn - I stayed in Wolf's den.

Inara proceeded to raid LA and obtained 2 more relics while Netya'nis waited.

3 hours after this all started - Ozone, Jackalope and Lingering Pain raided. (Time between epic spawn and second raid was about 2 hours during which Inara raided LA to obtain other relics.) Raid level LA toons logged in during this time, we expected someone to show but didn't until Ozone, Jackalope and Lingering Pain did.

I realize finding epic defenders and player defenders is not a favorable turn of event for raiders. But this does not mean the defending faction exploited. I can not help that epic spawn caused by chasing a raider. Yes I know a Monk SD is made to avoid direct melee with players, just kill npc defenders, grab relic and run. But the constant in and out chase tactic may cause an epic spawn.

Our expectation was raiders were coming, just matter of time. Yes I sat and waited, what is wrong with that.

I do not appreciate being accused of exploiting when that is not what happened. Had the first raider not attempted to avoid direct melee conflict then the epics would not have spawned, I would not have sat in the Wolf's den waiting for the eventual raid to occur.

I agree defenders entering and leaving cradle area repeatedly to spawn epics WHEN NO RAIDER IS PRESENT is an exploit. But this didn't happen today. Raid was in process, raider fled, entered, fled, entered over and over.

Not a defender exploit if chasing a raider that is entering/leaving/entering/leaving cradle area repeatedly within seconds.

Doesn't sound like a problem to me, he caused the epic spawns by his cowardice. All you did was capitalize on his cowardly actions.

let me guess they were crying about it all over shouts were'nt they lol.
The LA cry-babies, like they're ones to talk about spawning epic defenders. I beleive the rule about spawning them was made because of them.

Not knowing who was involved, not witnessing the action and going strictly by what is posted here. I'd say your in good standing. If epics spawn due to normal game play even if that involves a raider running in and out to escape the dragon form and the dragon follows the raider in and out... all is well.

I have found that those who tend to exploit are the first to "Shout" the word exploit when they think that something is not to their advantage, recognizing where an exploit can possibly be.

I do know this that anyone caught trying to either spawn or despawn epic defenders by using that exploit, maybe in in for one heck of a surprise. Lordy knows that epics are not really limited to just being near the cradle. And that's if one is real lucky.

Ya, the LA ppl were mad about the epic spawns and relayed it on shout. Go figure right?

actually i was the LA raider, i went in, found you, we both went out, then i went back in again. you followed me.. after that you never left the room again. i'm not sure what all is being said, and i didn't make a big deal of anything. all i said last night is after that i ran in again to see my "chances" of killing the npc and taking relic, you had alot of npc, i don't raid TC alot so i don't even know what your epics are even named.. all i said is alot of npc in there.

we did not go in and out 4 times, i may have but after the first time you stayed in the relic room.
i'm not saying your spawning, i'm saying you had alot of NPC, i doubt i could kill them off. i left shortly after all this so i don't know what was said on shouts or anything.

Buisness as usual i see.

Again I put out the no rule idea... then noone has any reason to complain. The weak leave the server, the strong have better compitition. However, not unlike a communist society we seem to like more rules then fewer.

Well, one shout let to a huge misunderstanding. Exploited by your LA peers. Go figure, eh? Why do we love the City so? Yeah, because it's noisy.

But to tell the truth, I don't even know, why Eldaquen is bothering defending (her?)himself against accusations from that corner of Aetheria. As mostly they are EXMDs or influenced by that rotten group, I wouldn't really care. Oh, and sry for my language. But I just returned from a long journey, and I don't care what LA might think about my opinion.
Some new Brethren and some HaNs are the dregs of the server sometimes (unaligned EXMDs and their pals especially included). Actually they are fun to play with. But they are really pissed, sore and bad loosers in PVP. Thus I won't bother anymore to justify going against them.

so..i'm really not interested in seeing a 5 page flame war over what someone thinks of others..

Nor me!