Dragon blocking the Door?

[Eldaquen]

Has this ever happened - You successful retrieve your relic from the clutches of Neversummer, just as you turn to run joyfully home, there's a HUGE dragon blocking the exit What do you do now ....hoards of defenders are stunning, shooting range weapons, casting all sorts of evil arcane magic and beating down on you with sticks and stuff (did they just throw a kitchen sink at your head? ) ... I felt your pain...but all is not lost...

Seems there is a simple solution the dragon blockade... change view from top down to driving and zoom in real close. Yes the dragon will look even bigger but dont let that deter you ... Run straight at door ... you should be able to see past dragon's mass to open door. Rest is up to you and how fast you can run .

You can thank Mythos....I believe this is how he got past Netya'nis in dragon form blockading entrance to Daeron's cradle room. Thanks Mythos

Restore Relic Balance

Eldaquen

[cRaZy8or5e]

That works, but what about when the dragon shifts into the door and blocks it that way by completely taking up the door and preventing access? What do you do then? What I saw happen is a person got frustrated, blew his top, and after being admonished for language he pointed it out to the DM's which promptly got him booted. I can understand getting booted after a flagrant language shout, but boot someone outright then. Not after they point out an opponent for using an exploit. It creates a very bad perception.

[Eldaquen]

ummmm we notify next of kin

[Nolan Silvermoon]

"Dragon blocking door" is a favorite tactic of LA. They have been doing that for quite some time, not just for this relic event. It can be overcome

[number one bastard]

he ( havok) has done this to me, tho he ( havok has died ) regaurdless, i've been aruond for 3 years give or take, and seen " balance" "balance" being talked about , yet i have to disagree, w/o personal feelings in this, i've complained about things myself and got the "boot" for it, people should have a right to at least state there side, W/O loosing their cool of course, tho i've lost mine a few times, oh btw alice swore on shout TWICE last night and wasn't ban, but gonzo was ....

[frogofpeace]

you got to fiddle with the camera, but you can generally find the door to open. If its open, run right through the dragon by clicking on the floor behind him. I found it a distraction at first, but that was all it was, not really a block.

[burrahobbit]

I dont think you guys understand what happened, he wasnt standing in front of the door, he ran up to it and shifted into the door. If you have played dragon shifters very much you will know that you can shift through walls, through doors, inside obstacles, on top of buildings, etc. This is an exploit widley used on 3.5 to get through locked doors. He was inside the door, none of it was visable. Either way, i lost my cool, its over now, lets move on.

[Thorac]

KILL Havok there problem solved works for me anyway hey havok ? oh and if someone is shifting in the door for a certain reason WELL i dont think anything else needs to be said there

[frogofpeace]

Hmm, yeah, that sounds fishy.

[Eldaquen]

Shifter becoming one with the door. Yes I am aware when shifting can become stuck within an object. That has happened accidentally to Netya'nis. DM was on and freed her from that situation quickly. To do on purpose ? I agree is not right.

In Netya'nis' case she was pushed into door during combat while shifted resulting in said oneness with the door.

Only way to release oneself (that I am aware of) is deshift and even Havok would think twice about deshifting in combat. Going on a limb and giving Havok the benefit of the doubt. I suspect even he would not want to die while defending and opening himself up to a screen shot trophy because stuck in a door so deshifted during combat, even if the fair thing to do. (Fair but not required)

Sometimes shifting to close to objects have unforeseen results. I hope the intent was not to become one with the door.

The intent of this thread was merely to share a possible way around this tactic. Watching Mythos clued me in, thought I'd share.

Sorry to have touched a nerve.

Eldaquen.

[Eldaquen]

The balance phrase at end was just a play on The Circle's desire for balance. Not really part of message....was just being lighthearted....ok attempted to be.

Did you not see the kitchen sink reference...poor attempt at humor there

[Sparky]

The player who cussed on shout was indeed admonished by me, but he was not booted to my knowledge. I assumed he had logged off after asking me a question before I could respond.

[VagaStorm]

I am quite sure havok was not one with the door.. not all time at least, cause he moved aside to let me in to the room, then moved back into guarding position again... Dragons are not that hard to kill, so I dont see the problem with this tactic, al tho if it is posible to "cheat" and become one with the door some how, it might be a problem... On the other hand, from an rp perspective, it should be quite legit to shape into a dragon that gets stuck in a door... Remember that shifters/dragons often can not even pas that door while shifted...

[AllAmerican]

Let me see someone shifting intentionally into a door, we will see what little nasty places they can survive.

Guarding the exit is a legit tactic, but if shifting into a door as to make it unusable, now that I will have fun with.

[cRaZy8or5e]

Allright let me restate again. Blocking a door with a big fat dragon is not a problem. You actually can squeeze past, its just not very easy and takes some "driving." He was shifting into the door. (walk an unshifted PC up to a door, turn sideways and sidestep into the door, then shift, and watch what happens) He would be unable to move but he would also prevent access to the door. If you open the door from outside, it will push the doors open inside and possibly push him out of the door as they come against the wall. So of course you won't realize when you come in. Furthermore it does no good to prevent people from coming in so shifting into the door is worthless unless the raider is inside. Its only when you have a raider in the cradle is it worth it. Get a shifter, have them shift into those big double doors and then see what happens when you try to access it. Make sure said shifter is hostile because technically you can click on the door but that "door-opening" action will get interrupted as soon as you come into contact with the hostile "saurian" PC in the door.