You be the dev: Word of Faith

[mining]

Ok, EffectCurse gets applied, but doesn't get around to immune stat drain.

Thinking something like:
- SR = yes, hostile only = No
- Damage of something like d6/two caster levels no cap, sonic or divine. Maybe keep like a 10% misschance on it. Applies to everything
- If alignment differs on one axis (either same good-evil or law chaos as caster), hit skills by (cl/5)-2 Applies to 1 step away
- If alignment differs on both, add will or stun for cl/20 rounds. Applies to 2 steps away
- Align is diametrically opposed, reduce wait time by CL/20 rounds.
- Not spammable, if targeted by it, safe from getting hit by another for like 10/CL-35 (minimum 1) rounds. Pure clerics would get to spam it a little.

Suggestions in bold

i.e.

Here is align table:

ooo
ooo
ooo

Yeah, it sucks.
If X is my alignment, o is 1 step away, v is 2, and x is diametrically opposed:

ooo
oxo
ooo

xov
oov
vvx

Basically TN gets the worst, and the extremes (LG, LE, CG, CE) get the best.

[Lokey]

I just don't want to have to program that, finding directly opposed is annoying, especially in a multiple target script.

It would be something like

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get CasterGE, CasterLC.
for(stuff in area)
{ 
    if (enemy and affectable and pass sr)
    {
        damage, apply placeholder vfx for checks
        get TargetGE, TargetLC 
        if(differs GE AND differs LC) {really bad things}
        else if( differs GE OR differs LC) {bad things}
        else {not so bad things}
    }
}

Finding diametrically opposed means carrying much more stuff around and a couple more comparisons...ok we do have a wrapper for finding specific align like Lawful-Good. But making that somewhat dynamic or having tons of cases, ug.

I like use with caution stuff, but don't think that should be the case here.

[weasel423]

Hey.. here's a novel idea:

Sometimes keeping a spell the way it was intended is the best nerf (or "fix") of all. Maybe change the time, say to a max of 10 rounds like how the RK hammer once was, or even 5 rounds. Maybe make it dependent on levels of evo focus or whatever focus it is made to be.

The spell was once considered the Great Dexer equalizer... can't you just make it do what it was suppose to do???

IIRC only toons of a lower level than the caster had to make the save vs stunned. Thus in lvl 40 pvp the blinding still worked, but not the stunning part.... i may be completely wrong here though

[OpalimTeGolim]

It would be something like

Code: Select all

get CasterGE, CasterLC.
for(stuff in area)
{ 
    if (enemy and affectable and pass sr)
    {
        damage, apply placeholder vfx for checks
        get TargetGE, TargetLC 
        if(differs GE AND differs LC) {really bad things}
        else if( differs GE OR differs LC) {bad things}
        else {not so bad things}
    }
}

This would remove biases mining was concerned about. Each alignment would have 4 GE AND LC mismatches and 4 GL OR LC mismatches. In general, I like the idea that alignment should matter, because atm neutral characters are usually in advantage.

[Rufio]

Agreed. Making it alignment based just encourages more people to go true neutral to minimize the risk. It might give clerics a reason to pick an extreme alignment, but that is it.

[Alkapwn]

I really think it should be a no-save effect with SR.
If any save (DC 10+casterlvl+wis mod vs will)
Same Alignment but Hostile = Dominate (as per Lolth/Illithids) for 1+1d3 rds
one alignment removed = Blind *as it is now
cumitalive two " " = Fear (-2ab,-2ac,-4will)
cumitalive three" " = Confusion (1+1d3rds)
cumitalive Diametiric opposed= Vehement (1d8/2caster lvls of divine dmg) , only LG-CE,LE-CG

[Eldaquen]

What if WoF just activated blessings normally given by DM's to those characters that choose a diety. The blessings already set up for each faction or diety whatever is it they already are.

[mining]

One possibility would be something like a contingent raise, as in Death Pact, Faiths of Faerun, or some such, with raw XP or GP penalties for the privilege.

[SkotG]

What if WoF just activated blessings normally given by DM's to those characters that choose a diety. The blessings already set up for each faction or diety whatever is it they already are.

I like the Idea

[mining]

What if WoF just activated blessings normally given by DM's to those characters that choose a diety. The blessings already set up for each faction or diety whatever is it they already are.

I like the Idea

So do I, but DM buffs are a wee bit strong, I've gotten Biohaste, BioTS, etc.

[TheEdge]

I am thinking that it would be best to leave DM Blesses to the DM's. They can be a bit strong and to open this up would lead into quite the temtation to attempt exploits.

[Amoenotep]

i got +800hp from blessing myself

[Daral0085]

I got biohaste once, which stacked with low level monk speed and blinding. It was quite entertaining.

[Rufio]

My personal favorite is to get bioware true seeing and use it to go slaughter some shadow dancers.

[mining]

Personal favourite is BAB mangling.