Monk Build

[mining]

Indeed. I would suggest planning a build out insofar as finding out what you need to do, and making something that can do that.

[Shadowalker]

ah, but you can't pvp or conquer all the NS4 dungeons in leto

To do well in pvp AND pvm here, you need a well built toon, and believe me, my first build here was mostly unplanned, and it just couldn't handle the challenges. Yours may fare better, but everyone's first build here isn't too optimized anyway, so maybe it is best to just wing it and figure things out from experience. It takes a few mistakes to figure out what is really needed to handle the toughest parts of the server.

This common element in all new players here is why I always suggest starting out with a mele cleric of some sort. Your spell casting fills in most of the holes created by lack of gear options. As a cleric, you have somethign to contribute to most any party. And when you get into your 30's and discover the half a dozen things you should have done diffrent, you can retired the cleric to scribing scrolls and brewing potions. So your learning experiance, give two fold benifit, first the knowledge, then the scroll n potions suppplies.

For your monk ranger, its kinda late to take advantage of what I just said, but something to consider for your next toon.

[weasel423]

Well put, Rufio. My first and second toons on the server had some issues handling pvp and the higher planar areas on this server. I had a few wasted feats (and skill points) which are not needed on this server, and neglected to take some that I should have. After that, I started pre-building all my toons. In fact, I even re-made my first toon a few months ago, and now he is much more formidable than the original.

Regarding role-playing on this server, it is not required here (although we do not discourage it). If you have a hard time thinking of pre-building as role-playing, just think of it as your toon has a strict plan for his life

Either way, I hope you like the server and stick around. We are glad to have you, just don't be discouraged if you get pk'd randomly as this is a PVP server and some players go by the rule: red = dead

[Dobian]

I doubt he's perfect, but I don't think I've made any glaring mistakes with the character so far. The feats and class levels have all made sense with what I'm doing. Maybe an unarmed monk is better than a kama monk here, I don't know. But aside from that, he's pretty much built like he should be for what he is.

[OpalimTeGolim]

Kama are nice. End game kama are +6 glimmerblades, which can be obtained with some effort, and +5 kama which are fairly easy to obtain. End game gloves are found in the same area as kama, and they are +7 gloves. Kama are small weapon, so you are risking being disarmed. Most likely not many people will try to disarm you now because you are new here, but that is something to think about if you plan to join raids from time to time (IMO, if you are not in pvp at all, there are some other servers which might be better for pvm... But then again, those are usually filled with crazy people. Oh.. wait). No one with small weapon (except from shifters and elementals) is safe from disarming.

You can see what kind of server this is by replies you got to your question. A lot of players do optimize their toons and in the end a lot of it comes down to playing with numbers. I'm not saying that you should play like this, however, the obsession with optimizing also means that you'll end up in parties in which you will not be able to contribute much. It's just how things are here

If you go with monk/ranger only, you get no spellcraft so your saves vs spells might be low even with 16 monk lvls. I hope you took some feats that improve your saves. There are bunch of other things I can say about that build, but I won't ruin the fun of exploring that build Welcome to the server and I hope you'll have fun.

[Dobian]

Kama are nice. End game kama are +6 glimmerblades, which can be obtained with some effort, and +5 kama which are fairly easy to obtain. End game gloves are found in the same area as kama, and they are +7 gloves. Kama are small weapon, so you are risking being disarmed. Most likely not many people will try to disarm you now because you are new here, but that is something to think about if you plan to join raids from time to time (IMO, if you are not in pvp at all, there are some other servers which might be better for pvm... But then again, those are usually filled with crazy people. Oh.. wait). No one with small weapon (except from shifters and elementals) is safe from disarming.

Well being a monk, getting disarmed isn't necessarily a bad thing. I was thinking of finishing with 30 monk/5 ranger/5 fighter. I already got the dueal-wield, extra AB, and extra epic feat for taking 5 ranger. I lose 1 point AC not going to 35 monk, but the extra feat from going fighter can always be used for armor skin and +2. fighter also allows to get weapon spec and epic weapon spec. I can then deicde if I want to use it on kama (which I already have epic weapon focus for), and be a super kama monk, or put the weapon spec in unarmed, and be a more well-rounded monk that hits a little harder unarmed and hits a little more consistently with a kama. That way he can put up a good fight, armed or unarmed. I haven't taken circle kick because there are pros and cons to it, but I could still use my extra feat on it.

[Rufio]

You won't get improved two weapon fighting like that. You need 9 ranger for that. the dual wield ranger ability does not let you qualify for the improved two-weapon fighting feat unfortunately. (it probably should, but whatever)

[Dobian]

You won't get improved two weapon fighting like that. You need 9 ranger for that. the dual wield ranger ability does not let you qualify for the improved two-weapon fighting feat unfortunately. (it probably should, but whatever)

I considered going 9 ranger for the imrpoved two weapon fighting at one point, but personally I think that feat is overrated, and the loss of four monk levels (or four fighter levels) just to get that and some crappy animal companion not worth it. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but taking 5 fighter I get three bonus feats to do with whatever I want, going to 10 ranger also gets me three more feats but one of them is going to be improved two weapon fighting...and no weapon specialization.

[mining]

One more attack a round is not worth two weapon fighting.

[Cijah]

I haven't taken circle kick because there are pros and cons to it, but I could still use my extra feat on it.

Unless the Devs have fixed this, Circle Kick is wasted feat. It doesn't work as intended.

I considered going 9 ranger .... and some crappy animal companion not worth it

Rangers do not receive the animal companion as they have been disabled along with familiars. Unless you mean the Summon line of spells available to Rangers who have enough wisdom to cast these.

[OpalimTeGolim]

Well being a monk, getting disarmed isn't necessarily a bad thing.

On this server, monks drop their weapons on the ground like any other mortals.

[diddy33]

Well being a monk, getting disarmed isn't necessarily a bad thing.

On this server, monks drop their weapons on the ground like any other mortals.

I think he may have been referring to unarmed strike.

[Lokey]

Circle kick is better than it was (that would not be hard), but it's engine stuff. Maybe when we can sniff combat mode changes we can do something with.

[Ryddwillow]

I have a soon-to-be 11 monk with kama weapon focus. I was wondering if I should keep him as a pure monk with his kama as a backup, or make him a monk/ranger duel-wield kama with, ultimately, improved weapon fighting? Any suggestions? I don't know what kind of kamas are available here beyond the basic ones.

Pure monk, monk/cleric/?, Monk/cot, Monk/Pally, monk/Assassin/? are good ones. I rarely use kamas unless it is mixed build because of better damage from spells (Mostly Clerics). pure monk has a good punch and dc to go with it. Slash weapons I really stay away from due to the NPC'S have good slash resistance.

Would not take kama weapon focus as a backup due to it is a wasted feat.

On the other hand in a raid most ppl do not use slash resistance because mostly it is pierce and blud weapons to defend.

[Shamedmonkey]

My first build on this server, a pure barbarian, took Dirty Fighting.


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