Discussion board for the Relic Event.

[TheEdge]

As usual I am opening up the boards to allow for questions and discussion. I or other members of the staff will try and answer any questions that may be broached.

The rules and standards that had been set up for this last relic event still apply so feel free to review. http://www.nsrealm.com/public/ns/viewto ... 63&start=0

One change that I am going to institute for this event I believe will create some excitement as well as much much more action.

Each heat will in essence be divided in half. That is to say at the halfway point (that’s two hours ) a shout will go out with a 10 min and a 5 min warning. At the two hour point no matter what current action is taking place the relics will be sent back home for a second time. (No server reset will occur for this action).
This of course gives everyone a chance to scramble back to defend or to mount other attacks all over the server.
Keep in mind that 30 minute ruling on switching raiding characters still applies so be careful if attempting to prep raiding toons for the second relic reset in each heat.

My hope is with this change it will create a lot more action during each heat and some closer races for the winner at the end.




Again this tread is open for any and all comments questions and I know I don’t have to say it but refrain from turning this into a flame war about past events or it will be shut down.

[Shamedmonkey]

Must we have relic events again? Can't we do something else as an event, like a king of the hill event of some sort? Just something different, please. I'm so tired of relic events.

[Alkapwn]

Must we have relic events again? Can't we do something else as an event, like a king of the hill event of some sort? Just something different, please. I'm so tired of relic events.

How about a mini side event during the Relic event called "How many times can you PK Shamed Event" I'll throw a in a book for the top pk'r

[TheEdge]

Must we have relic events again? Can't we do something else as an event, like a king of the hill event of some sort? Just something different, please. I'm so tired of relic events.

[censored] it...no one cares what you say......That being said, the relic event is traditional, other events are being planned just stand by.

[mining]

GMT times, to save time: (assuming EST = Eastern Standard Time, no DST applied)

07/30/10 1st heat 1200-1600 EST 2nd heat -2000-0000 EST
07/31/10 3rd heat -2000-0000 EST
08/01/10 4th heat 1200-1600 EST 5th heat 2000-0000 EST

30-7-2010: 17:00 - 21:00 GMT
31-7-2010: 01:00 - 05:00 GMT
01-8-2010: 01:00 - 05:00 GMT --- 17:00-21:00 GMT
02-8-2010: 01:00 - 05:00 GMT

I should be able to make the 0100-0500 GMT timeslots on the 1st and 2nd (again, GMT) which should be good.

Also, Gorm, thats not very nice to Shamed ;p.

[Mixtli]

Time schedule is quite unfriendly for people in Europe. 3/5 of the event start at 1 or 2 am. While we can make it to the beginning, hard to expect we can stay the night till 6 am

Ah well, know it cant be good for everyone.
Also i hope the turnout will be good. Date is tricky, 1.8. is usually time for summer vacations.

[burrahobbit]

Must we have relic events again? Can't we do something else as an event, like a king of the hill event of some sort? Just something different, please. I'm so tired of relic events.

How about a mini side event during the Relic event called "How many times can you PK Shamed Event" I'll throw a in a book for the top pk'r

I got a dollar and a book that says shamed would give better than he gets.

I'm excited for the event, stay outa daeron kapwn

[Brutalix]

Time schedule is quite unfriendly for people in Europe. 3/5 of the event start at 1 or 2 am. While we can make it to the beginning, hard to expect we can stay the night till 6 am

Ah well, know it cant be good for everyone.
Also i hope the turnout will be good. Date is tricky, 1.8. is usually time for summer vacations.

Can we also hold off the event for a week or two till my Diamond edition shows up in the mail?

[Tsavong]

-Use of toons made in opposing factions to spy or cause havok will be allowed but will be subject to the 30 min re-log rule just like any other player.

In the last relic event I was informed by you that changing sides was not allowed during the event, ie if you picked MA you had to play MA or SL for the event am I to take it that this is now not so?

[TheEdge]

-Use of toons made in opposing factions to spy or cause havok will be allowed but will be subject to the 30 min re-log rule just like any other player.

In the last relic event I was informed by you that changing sides was not allowed during the event, ie if you picked MA you had to play MA or SL for the event am I to take it that this is now not so?

Quoted from the last event

Regarding the use of lower lvl toons to spy or act as forward warning signals, as dual logging will not be allowed I don’t see the problem with this.
#1 The event is open to all not just 40's.
#2 Lower lvl toons are subject to the same rules and regulations as anyone else. If a lowbie is used to go on ahead to scout out a perspective raiding point and is killed in action, this in my book would constitute PVP action and said toon would then be subject to the 30 min veng log reg.
#3 If the lower lvl toon is truly an enemy in sheep’s clothing using the friendly faction status to infiltrate the enemy’s keep, while devious, is part of the strategy of war. Again if KIA they are subject to the 30 min rule so they will not be able to just jump back to their raider and commence action. I suggest that all factions/guilds go through some in-depth house cleaning so when the time of war comes those devious enough to attempt to infiltrate the enemy’s home will be spotted quickly and dealt with harshly.
That being said the staff will be watching very closely to enforce these standards to rest assured that we do “see all” and will deal with those that don’t adhere to the 30 min standard.

This specificly applies to spies and such. The act of deciding partway through the event you may have chosen the loosing team and then want to start "betting on the winning horse" is cheezy and still will not be allowed. This is the "Defender of the Relic Event" Not the "Do I have enough toons cross factioned/guilded to make sure I end up on the winnin team.

[weasel423]

Can we also hold off the event for a week or two till my Diamond edition shows up in the mail?

It's not until the END OF JULY!!!

[alasteir]

Sounds like fun......Again, thank you to all the staff for giving us the lead time......it definitely makes for higher attendance rates, and thusly more PvP.

I like the idea of the relic reset every two hours. That will certainly add some excitement.

[burrahobbit]

Regarding the use of lower lvl toons to spy or act as forward warning signals, as dual logging will not be allowed I don’t see the problem with this.
#1 The event is open to all not just 40's.
#2 Lower lvl toons are subject to the same rules and regulations as anyone else. If a lowbie is used to go on ahead to scout out a perspective raiding point and is killed in action, this in my book would constitute PVP action and said toon would then be subject to the 30 min veng log reg.
#3 If the lower lvl toon is truly an enemy in sheep’s clothing using the friendly faction status to infiltrate the enemy’s keep, while devious, is part of the strategy of war. Again if KIA they are subject to the 30 min rule so they will not be able to just jump back to their raider and commence action. I suggest that all factions/guilds go through some in-depth house cleaning so when the time of war comes those devious enough to attempt to infiltrate the enemy’s home will be spotted quickly and dealt with harshly.
That being said the staff will be watching very closely to enforce these standards to rest assured that we do “see all” and will deal with those that don’t adhere to the 30 min standard.

This specificly applies to spies and such. The act of deciding partway through the event you may have chosen the loosing team and then want to start "betting on the winning horse" is cheezy and still will not be allowed. This is the "Defender of the Relic Event" Not the "Do I have enough toons cross factioned/guilded to make sure I end up on the winnin team.

I find it interesting that you think changing sides (for example) from my fon's to a syn mid event is cheezy, but logging in an enemy faction lowbie to spy is not cheezy. I hope i am misunderstanding you. Using a TC shifter to raid TC is about as cheezy as it gets, especially in a defender of the relic event. logging a lowbie TC char to spy on TC in the event should be considered cheating and flat not allowed. You guys should rethink your rules in my opinion. In a DM run event, the condoning/allowing of BS tactics is bad for the server. I'm not real big into RP, but the ideals of fun/fair play should be taken into consideration.

p.s. The lowbie cant jump back to their raider for 30 minutes, but they can go straight back to their defender. Its a bad idea all the way around.

This is the "Defender of the Relic Event"

I agree.....

[Bargeld]

This may be trying to rules lawyer a bit much, but what if said lowbie spy battlelogs before death. Battlelogging has been a hot topic the past couple evenings and it's been proven that different people have different opinions about it. I've actually seen it cross the borders into venge logging when a lvl 20 in FD gets attacked by a lvl 25, but manages to log before death, then comes back with a lvl 40 and says it's not venge log since they didn't die.

[Amoenotep]

initiation of combat is what determines venge logging. battle logging proves your spineless...logging in a new char to exact revenge even though you didn't die is venge logging.

we got that? anyone unclear of WHEN COMBAT STARTS VENGE LOGGING RULES APPLY!!!!!!!!!