At this stage

[mining]

I think we've gotten all of the disabled spells.

Are there any spells, at this stage, which are:

A) Disabled. We don't want any of these left .

B) Beyond useless. Might be reasons why, but worth a look.

C) Bugged in some way. Also don't want any of these left .

[Alkapwn]

Off the top of my head
Horizikaul's boom
Mass Charm

[mining]

Off the top of my head
Horizikaul's boom
Mass Charm

Horizakaul's works.

Mass Charm works.

[Amoenotep]

charm=lol for low will save chars

[Rufio]

crumble - only affects constructs. It isn't even particularly powerful against constructs, especially for a level 6 spell. Even if it was effective, it wouldn't get any use outside of IoD.

glyph of warding - reflex dc is broken and always defaults to 14. It has always been a weak level 3 spell regardless of the save as well.

vampiric touch - it doesn't seem to grant temporary hp like it should.

sunbeam - reflex save for 3 rounds of blindness and 12d6 damage is weak for a level 8 spell. It isn't party friendly and can be evaded, so there is never any reason to use it instead of earthquake or firestorm on a druid or cleric.

sunburst - I don't believe that it permanently blinds like the spell description. It is like an even weaker sunbeam.

mass blindness/deafness - wiki says this is disabled. I haven't tested it, but is this working now?

combust - wiki says that the spell will not continue on a failed reflex save. I think this is to prevent people from having it burn forever on lowbies, but there is a 10 round cap on the spell already according to nwn.wikia.com, so it isn't even possible to grief with it like that.

circle of death - by the time you get level 6 sorc/wizard spells, are there really any monsters with less than 9 hit die that you will be fighting to use this on?

ball lightning - caps at 12d6 damage? This is weaker than a focused scintillating sphere, and fellow level 5 spell firebrand caps at 20d6.

cone of cold - caps at 15d6 damage? This is weaker than a high level ice storm, but also has a save. As above, a level 5 firebrand caps at 20d6.

power word spells - I don't want to say that these are totally useless, but without epic spell focus divination you might as well just use a maxed igms to kill someone with.

[Amoenotep]

pwk reasonably decent considering its around 200hp...not everyone has 1k barbs

[Rufio]

100 hp without focuses. I didn't day it was totally useless with epic spell focus, which kills at 175 hp.

So pretty much it goes
no focus -> useless
spell focus -> still useless
greater spell focus -> maybe if they are wearing archmage robes or the room is really crowded?
epic spell focus -> ok, it might be worth slotting one now. No more than one though.

Anyways, of all the spells I listed, pwk is the one that was the one I very nearly omitted.

[Ajantis.]

Stone to Flesh. I've never seen anyone use that spell with any effectiveness. Seems the only way to fix being turned to stone is to have someone kill you, and then raise you.


Also, why don't domain spells work with auto-buff?

[Amoenotep]

stoned is like an engine thing...same reason we originally changed flesh to stone something that could be used in pvp: power slow

[mining]

Stone to Flesh should work, by script - so if its not... well, at least its only Angmar mobs.

Domain spells don't work with auto buff because bio.

[Rufio]

I can't get stone to flesh on medusa form to work ever. I've never really tried as a wizard. I remember it being an issue in skara against the night queen boss.

[Ajantis.]

Stone to Flesh scrolls don't even seem to work. You'd think that would be something as easy to use as raise dead.

[Alkapwn]

Stone to Flesh seems to work for me with medusa bow for my MA PL'r . Only use i've ever found for StF ever btw.

edit * If you are failing Skara queen either your a pure fighter/WM or you should delete that toon atm anyway

[Lokey]

Stone to Flesh does lots of cool things that you can't do because targeting on it is set wrong, needs rethinking or just raging.

There were some other things but I got side-tracked by Rufio's my cleric sucks post lol.

[Rufio]

what post was that? Clerics are the best class on the server.

Of all those spells I posted, only glyph of warding and sunbeam are cleric spells. Glyph of warding is legitimately bugged and sunbeam is also a druid spell.

Most of those spells are wizard spells. There are even more druid spells in that list than cleric spells.