Im in MA and cant go PM

|-Ifrit-| · Post by **|-Ifrit-|** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:02 am

Basically i have all the requirements for PM and im in MA and i cant go PM look at this screenshot

http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image ... ed5mf2.png

Post by **Netrom.dk** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:03 pm

What classes are you?

|-Ifrit-| · Post by **|-Ifrit-|** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:07 pm

9 cleric
3 bard

i have all requirements as i am True Neutral

Post by **TGPO** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:42 pm

You dont meet the requirements yet is why you cant take it. It isnt 3 levels of arcane caster, but the ability to cast level 3 arcane spells. Your cleric levels do not apply to this, you need to hit level 5 bard before PM becomes an option.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:35 pm

Actually it's level 7 bard.
Level 5 wiz.
Level 6 sorc.

Post by **Binkyuk** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:23 pm

TGPO wrote:You dont meet the requirements yet is why you cant take it. It isnt 3 levels of arcane caster, but the ability to cast level 3 arcane spells. Your cleric levels do not apply to this, you need to hit level 5 bard before PM becomes an option.

is this something that was added in NS? because my tester module allows me to do it after 3 levels.

Post by **TGPO** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:12 pm

Thats the way it reads in the book. The ability to cast level 3 spells, not 3 levels of caster level.

Myrdyr · Post by **Myrdyr** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:16 pm

TGPO wrote:Thats the way it reads in the book. The ability to cast level 3 spells, not 3 levels of caster level.

But that's not how nwn works. NWN requires 3 levels. Try it out yourself. So it's either changed in NeverSummer or bugged. My guess: bug.

lord_modred · Post by **lord_modred** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:54 pm

i think TGPO's point was, thats the way it's written in the book, so thats what they changed it to

Post by **Mr. O'Dearly** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:43 am

my pale master is:
4wizard
7pale master
1fighter

took first level of pm after 4 of wizard which only casts 2nd level spells. Maybe its just a bug with bard.

Silver Lady · Post by **Silver Lady** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:36 am

TGPO wrote:Thats the way it reads in the book. The ability to cast level 3 spells, not 3 levels of caster level.

u r wrong, u need only 3 lvls of caster lvl, don't trust the book

lord_modred · Post by **lord_modred** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:42 am

actually, what he said is exactly right

the key phrase in his post was, "thats the way it reads in the book"

|-Ifrit-| · Post by **|-Ifrit-|** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:21 pm

Well.... on any other server you only need 3 character levels of an arcane class.... i also have a level 3bard/2pm on NS4 so i think its my bugged character

Myrdyr · Post by **Myrdyr** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:27 pm

It's documented in the wiki as being the same as standard nwn, requiring 3 class levels, because there is nothing in the ns docs or news that says it was changed. You'd at least think a major change like that to class requirements would be documented...

Post by **TGPO** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:33 pm

I was going off what was written in th book. Personally I have never messed with cheese master as a player. There may well be something messed up with PM, however if it is possible to take PM at level 3 I will be suggesting to the dev team to script a fix to bring it in line with the book.