focous aburation

[MasterYoda]

I have a couple of questions about this.

I will use all examples as a pure sorc.

Ok if I have greater spell penetration it obviously gives me + 6 to my roll making it
40+6+d20

Now if I have epic focous in abu. How does that work?

Does it add 6 to my despell check or does it add 6 to what my sr would be?

Ie if my sr is 45 well say I went drow ... Would it effectivly give me 51 sr by adding to the dc needed to beat it.

Same with archane defenses aburation does that add to my sr ?

I was a little confused with this as I have never experimented with it.

Thanks
Yoda~~

[Joran]

Neither of those feats have anything to do with SR.

Epic Spell Focus gives your spells +6 DC, Arcane Defense gives you a +2 to saves vs other people's spells of a given type.

Spell Penetration --> Spell Resistance

Spell DC --> Saving Throw

So, in your case, Epic Spell Focus: Abjuration would give all your Abjuration spells +6 DC. Arcane Defense: Abjuration would give you +2 to saves vs. Abjuration spells.

[Holghask]

My understanding is it adds to your roll to dispell someone, and has nothing to do with your SR directly nor having to overcome their SR. Dispell spells ignore SR and try and strip a magical buff after automatically lowering the SR.

For example, at 40th lev (all sorc), you try to dispell another 40th lev caster, you would have the following dispell checks:
Mord's:40(uncapped caster lev)+1d20 vs a DC of 40(target's caster level) + 11
GreaterDispell: 20(caster level up to 20 since it's capped) +1d20 vs DC = 40 + 11 (is impossible to dispell target caster)

Now with Epic spell Focus Abjuration, you get +6 added to those rolls:
Mord's: 40+6+1d20 vs DC=40+11
GD: 20+6+1d20 vs DC=40+11

Now if you had Arcane Defense in Abjuration, your Dispell DC would be increased by 2...or DC=40+11+2 in the above examples if you were the target of a dispell attempt.

[Cluster]

Mords on this server does not dispell. The best you can get is form greater dispell, 20.

[Joran]

Mords on this server does not dispell. The best you can get is form greater dispell, 20.

Just to clarify - Mord's doesn't necessarily "dispel" in the truest sense, but it definitely does in the sense that it strips breachable protections. Any kind of magical armor, shield, elemental buffer, stoneskin, etc. can be removed with Mord's, including Greater Spell Mantle, Undeath's Eternal Foe, and Shapechange (it's the only spell that can breach those three protections).

[Sparky]

An untargeted Mords functions in the same way Greater Dispel does, except its uncapped for caster level. So a 40 Sorc/Wiz strip a non-pure caster of every single buff they have if they use an untargeted Mords.
(Tested and Confirmed, though the untargeted radius is a little unreliable)

[Holghask]

Oh yes, Mord's dispells on this server...one must cast it at the target's feet however (not directly on the target). Furthermore, the memorized Mord's spell only target's 1 buff to dispell (it may be random) from this technique, whereas a Mord's scroll gets a dispell roll for every single buff on the target when cast at it's feet (I've gotten 18 rolls to dispell buffs using Mord's scrolls before...too bad the caster check is only 17 for the scroll).

Should the memorized mord's be able to get a roll for every buff on the target? Maybe this should be implemented for casters if Bigbies gets a workover...

[JesterOI]

You would think a caster casting would have the advantage over someone using a scroll.

[Joran]

You would think a caster casting would have the advantage over someone using a scroll.

....durpa durpa durpa....

[Sparky]

I've actually found it seems to take a few untargetted Mords (from a memorized Mord) before it decides to try and strip every buff via a dispel check. Two in rapid succession seem to do the trick most of the time.