Heal Potions

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Thu May 04, 2006 7:58 pm

Now I don't want to come off negative or anything, but I think heal potions need a little boost. They cost 10k for one potion, thats a lot. I know healing all the way would be too much, but right now they don't bring my fighter from near death to even injured. They heal about 130 hp each, not worth the 10k imo. It kinda infuriates me that they can't even bring me past badly wounded...

watchwood · Post by **watchwood** » Thu May 04, 2006 8:29 pm

It is irritating, especially in how it makes clerics just about the only option for healing in combat at high levels.

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Thu May 04, 2006 9:15 pm

i rarely buy full heals and i survive fights ok. those next to the highest ones are your best bet. a couple will almost heal you on a good sip and it costs much less.

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Thu May 04, 2006 11:37 pm

ummm.... wow people actually buy potions???

Why not just make a cleric for crafting potions? It costs like 10 times LESS...

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Thu May 04, 2006 11:40 pm

8k gold and 800xp for 10 Heal pots I think it is.
I use my druid. Send him up giant mountain for 10 minutes and I can get me enough XP for a couple hundred heal pots.

Post by **Mr. O'Dearly** » Thu May 04, 2006 11:40 pm

We'd like to not have to survive off of metagaming

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Thu May 04, 2006 11:42 pm

It's not metagaming if a buddy just happens to be the one that you give the gift of 200 heal pots to and then he returns the favour to you alter when you'r elogged on with a different character!

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Thu May 04, 2006 11:42 pm

which is mostly why i don't carry many rez's either. not all of us want a cleric build. so i tell ppl i party with in planars, if you die its your own fault don't expect me to keep you alive if you can't survive.

seriouslynow · Post by **seriouslynow** » Thu May 04, 2006 11:50 pm

Doesn't making heal pots even a bit cheaper infringe on the purpose of heal kits and the heal skill? Don't get me wrong, it is nice to be able to heal fast in a fight but even clerics have to make conc checks for their spells and have enough levels invested for that effect.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Fri May 05, 2006 12:48 am

I carry about 100 +12 heal kits on all of my characters for small healing jobs, or to heal myself when i am not in a life thretening situation; and to me the heal skill is worth it.

The price of the potions are high because of the superiority they have over the potions.

And as people have said above, just make a cleric for potions/scrolls if you find yourself struggling...

I can see the concern with healing capacity of the super healing potions -- a fully buffed 750 hp cleric who ran out of heals needs a good chunk of these potions to pump his health up high enough to save his arse.

Post by **Lokey** » Fri May 05, 2006 12:51 am

Been playing and not exactly thrilled with the way things are. Try out the heal and inflict line of spells (collect all 12) and tell us what you think.

Deicide · Post by **Deicide** » Fri May 05, 2006 9:58 am

I would like if there could be some relics (like those we gain with faction Jobs) that would allow people to fully heal ourselves or raise someone else once every (real time) hour or once every (real time) day. It would not solve the problem, but at least we would not need clerics so much. Notive that the same item has both functions, and the cooldown is shared: if you heal yourself fully OR raise someone else, you can't use the item again for the cooldown time.

CrazyJ · Post by **CrazyJ** » Fri May 05, 2006 11:09 am

Someone who sells Raise or Res scrolls would be nice... even if he's hard to get to.

Right now, it's either
1) Make a cleric toon specifically to make scrolls for your characters
2) Be part of a guild that's organized and disciplined enough to feed scrolls to everyone
3) Rely on the charity of random party-member clerics

#2 only really works for certain factions, and #3 is unreliable at best unless you're on a lot and are lucky. That leaves #1, and my understanding is that meta-gaming is not encouraged... but the current Raise scroll setup does encourage it.

Holghask · Post by **Holghask** » Fri May 05, 2006 12:32 pm

One can always contact me (Jana Kiyruun) in game to purchase raise dead scrolls (useable by all toons) and resurrection scrolls (only useable by divine casters who can cast resurrection already, or UMD toons with a high enough UMD score). I charge double the cost of what it costs me to make the scrolls. The XP hit I take at my level for making the scrolls is of no consideration to me (I have my reasons...)

So send me a tell sometime in game, as I do not discriminate. DD, KST, tLB, any guild and non-guild members wil have no problems buying scrolls from me.