...Disarmed

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Fri May 19, 2006 3:15 am

BIG EDIT : i got discusted when looking at my mindless rant...for those fortunate enough to not read it, basically it delt with me being disarmed, and to the best of my knowledge it vanished completly, but as i assumed, there is nothing that can be done...hehe could have been worse

Post by **Zing** » Fri May 19, 2006 3:28 am

I would start saving some cash for a new axe if I were you.

Post by **Mr. O'Dearly** » Fri May 19, 2006 3:47 am

youre in a guild! and a big guild at that. How hard could it be to get another axe?

Im sure kSt's got a few dozen tucked away on one of their mules thanks to Sirus alone.

JesterOI · Post by **JesterOI** » Fri May 19, 2006 8:55 am

Just offer up between 500k and 1m gold, I'm sure you'll get one fast enough.

Death Dealer1 · Post by **Death Dealer1** » Fri May 19, 2006 9:50 am

you won't get it back..and on the topic, i've heard of this happening before.

MLoki · Post by **MLoki** » Fri May 19, 2006 11:12 am

DCN has lost dozens of weapons defending against Avenger who seems to be able to make a weapon drop to the ground by disarm 90% of the time with a halberd. Most of the time he does pick it up and has never offered to return the item but at least he will tell you of the theft. Sometimes, however, the weapons go unclaimed and gets lost due to cleanup scripts. Either way we deal with it and move on. At least yours was only an Amazon Queen axe which DCN can return to you for a nominal fee. Try recovering a Moleman Shiv or a Dwarven Longsword someday (not easy). I personally wouldn't have a problem if all disarm did was become un-identified and drop to inventory since the percentage chance to drop seems to cause more issues then even the original disarm ability. Let me know in-game and I will go with you to get another axe if need be.

MLoki

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Fri May 19, 2006 1:49 pm

Mr. O'Dearly wrote:youre in a guild! and a big guild at that. How hard could it be to get another axe?

Im sure kSt's got a few dozen tucked away on one of their mules thanks to Sirus alone.

Obviously, but it is a matter of Principle

Zing: Thank you for responding and for your time taken to read

...and for your insanley fast responce time...i dont know how he does it !

Mloki: Yes, ill catch you in game, and i am VERY glad that it is somthing that could be replaced without much difficulty.

Well ya might as well lock this one....thx everyone.

Celorn · Post by **Celorn** » Fri May 19, 2006 5:16 pm

hmm..sounds like we need to do some more testing to see what is going on with disarm - I have a couple toons that have disarm that i can test with.

fatz: I have about 10 spare queens axes if you need one, and I think the guild mules have a few too... no need to pay for it ;]

Knutsont · Post by **Knutsont** » Fri May 19, 2006 6:31 pm

I had this happen once too...rock smasher completely disappeared. Eh, not a real big deal.

However, while testing I noticed that disarm completely ignores AC. That is, it makes a modified AB check against discipline directly, without checking for a hit first. Perhaps this is the way it is supposed to be...someone know?

Falazure- · Post by **Falazure-** » Sat May 20, 2006 5:50 pm

I've also had my axe disarmed and it tottally dissapeared.Guess im not the only one,and as for disarm taking weapons,90 percent of the multiclassed characters that hit lvl 40 or close to it will never have it happen to them,even a dex build can max discipline out easy by then.

kingfatzo · Post by **kingfatzo** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:08 pm

ya, the person who hit me must have had a very high check to sucessfully diarm me... but as he says it is his strategy -- just as if you have IKD and can restrict a character from hitting you-same concept-- I know its another touchy issue the whole disarm thing, but on one side , having a disarmed weapon default to hit your inventory instead of the ground 100% of the time is just as crippling when it comes to pvp fighting -- a disarmed weapon wherever it falls is usually bugged beyond belief, often reguiring a relog to fix it.

The only true problem here is if you "lost" a tougher to get item, say ragnars axe...where unless you are a palemaster or a crazy bard twist, it is very unlikley you can solo fight your way there to get another....mine was just a queens axe... har har.

On the other side however as crude as it is to disarm for profit, it is a PvP server and although will usually earn you a KOS, some people do it

I am not proposing anything here, b/c changing it would take away from the pvp theme that the server represents ( among other things ), however if i do recall there was a point in time where disarm weapons DID only hit your inventory....

ultimate solution -- use an unarmed strike monk

Post by **Zing** » Sun May 21, 2006 5:10 am

They way disarm works is described here:

http://www.nsrealm.com/ns4wiki/index.php/Disarm

If it works any differently than as described please let me know.

Falazure- · Post by **Falazure-** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:57 am

The only difference ive noticed is every now and then the weapon totally dissapears without dropping in anyones backpack or on the ground.

P. Fricebottle · Post by **P. Fricebottle** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:29 am

Falazure- wrote:The only difference ive noticed is every now and then the weapon totally dissapears without dropping in anyones backpack or on the ground.

Oh that? Thats just Satan taking his daily taxes from players.

MLoki · Post by **MLoki** » Sun May 21, 2006 11:56 am

ActuallyI have seen some toons that are either really lucky or have much better percantages then listed. Perhaps in periods of high lag the script overlooks some vital steps like the weapon not dropping at all or skipping right over the whole percentage chance, I am not sure. However the way Zing has the script currently even if the weapon always dropped back into inventory it wouldn't cripple toons based on it because the disarmed character can't re-equip it until they have rested.

MLoki